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From: Mike Looijmans <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Tom Levens <tom.levens@cern.ch>, <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	<robh+dt@kernel.org>, <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] hwmon: ltc2990: support all measurement modes
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 20:52:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <582E0A6C.5010307@topic.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161117185654.GA19338@roeck-us.net>

On 17-11-2016 19:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 06:40:17PM +0100, Mike Looijmans wrote:
>> On 17-11-16 17:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2016 04:10 AM, Tom Levens wrote:
>>>> Updated version of the ltc2990 driver which supports all measurement
>>>> modes available in the chip. The mode can be set through a devicetree
>>>> attribute.
>>>
> [ ... ]
>
>>>>
>>>> static int ltc2990_i2c_probe(struct i2c_client *i2c,
>>>>                   const struct i2c_device_id *id)
>>>> {
>>>>      int ret;
>>>>      struct device *hwmon_dev;
>>>> +    struct ltc2990_data *data;
>>>> +    struct device_node *of_node = i2c->dev.of_node;
>>>>
>>>>      if (!i2c_check_functionality(i2c->adapter,
>>>> I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_BYTE_DATA |
>>>>                       I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_WORD_DATA))
>>>>          return -ENODEV;
>>>>
>>>> -    /* Setup continuous mode, current monitor */
>>>> +    data = devm_kzalloc(&i2c->dev, sizeof(struct ltc2990_data),
>>>> GFP_KERNEL);
>>>> +    if (unlikely(!data))
>>>> +        return -ENOMEM;
>>>> +    data->i2c = i2c;
>>>> +
>>>> +    if (!of_node || of_property_read_u32(of_node, "lltc,mode",
>>>> &data->mode))
>>>> +        data->mode = LTC2990_CONTROL_MODE_DEFAULT;
>>>
>>> Iam arguing with myself if we should still do this or if we should read
>>> the mode
>> >from the chip instead if it isn't provided (after all, it may have been
>>> initialized
>>> by the BIOS/ROMMON).
>>
>> I think the mode should be explicitly set, without default. There's no way
>> to tell whether the BIOS or bootloader has really set it up or whether the
>> chip is just reporting whatever it happened to default to. And given the
>> chip's function, it's unlikely a bootloader would want to initialize it.
>>
> Unlikely but possible. Even if we all agree that the chip should be configured
> by the driver, I don't like imposing that view on everyone else.
>
>> My advice would be to make it a required property. If not set, display an
>> error and bail out.
>>
> It is not that easy, unfortunately. It also has to work on a non-devicetree
> system. I would not object to making the property mandatory, but we would
> still need to provide non-DT support.
>
> My "use case" for taking the current mode from the chip if not specified
> is that it would enable me to run a module test with all modes. I consider
> this extremely valuable.

Good point.

The chip defaults to measuring internal temperature only, and the mode 
defaults to "0".

Choosing a mode that doesn't match the actual circuitry could be bad for 
the chip or the board (though unlikely, it'll probably just be useless) 
since it will actively drive some of the inputs in the temperature modes 
(which is default for V3/V4 pins).

Instead of failing, one could choose to set the default mode to "7", 
which just measures the 4 voltages, which would be a harmless mode in 
all cases.

As a way to let a bootloader set things up, I think it would be a good 
check to see if CONTROL register bits 4:3 are set. If "00", the chip is 
not acquiring data at all, and probably needs configuration still. In 
that case, the mode must be provided by the devicetree (or the default "7").
If bits 4:3 are "11", it has already been set up to measure its inputs, 
and it's okay to continue doing just that and use the current value of 
2:0 register as default mode (if the devicetree didn't specify any mode 
at all).

The reason I wanted the property to be mandatory is to trigger users 
like me (probably I'm the only other user so far) to update their 
devicetree. But I'd notice quickly enough if it defaults to something 
else. So that's not very compelling.

>>> Mike, would that break your application, or can you specify the mode in
>>> devicetree ?
>>
>> I'm fine with specifying this in the devicetree. It will break things for
>> me, but I've been warned and willing to bow for the greater good :)
>>
> I should have asked if your system uses devicetree. If it does, the problem
> should be easy to fix for you. If not, we'll need to find a solution
> for your use case.

I'm using devicetree. I planned to 'mainline' the boards some time this 
year...

>
> Thanks,
> Guenter
>


-- 
Mike Looijmans


Kind regards,

Mike Looijmans
System Expert

TOPIC Products
Materiaalweg 4, NL-5681 RJ Best
Postbus 440, NL-5680 AK Best
Telefoon: +31 (0) 499 33 69 79
E-mail: mike.looijmans@topicproducts.com
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From: Mike Looijmans <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Tom Levens <tom.levens@cern.ch>,
	jdelvare@suse.com, robh+dt@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] hwmon: ltc2990: support all measurement modes
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 20:52:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <582E0A6C.5010307@topic.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161117185654.GA19338@roeck-us.net>

On 17-11-2016 19:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 06:40:17PM +0100, Mike Looijmans wrote:
>> On 17-11-16 17:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2016 04:10 AM, Tom Levens wrote:
>>>> Updated version of the ltc2990 driver which supports all measurement
>>>> modes available in the chip. The mode can be set through a devicetree
>>>> attribute.
>>>
> [ ... ]
>
>>>>
>>>> static int ltc2990_i2c_probe(struct i2c_client *i2c,
>>>>                   const struct i2c_device_id *id)
>>>> {
>>>>      int ret;
>>>>      struct device *hwmon_dev;
>>>> +    struct ltc2990_data *data;
>>>> +    struct device_node *of_node = i2c->dev.of_node;
>>>>
>>>>      if (!i2c_check_functionality(i2c->adapter,
>>>> I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_BYTE_DATA |
>>>>                       I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_WORD_DATA))
>>>>          return -ENODEV;
>>>>
>>>> -    /* Setup continuous mode, current monitor */
>>>> +    data = devm_kzalloc(&i2c->dev, sizeof(struct ltc2990_data),
>>>> GFP_KERNEL);
>>>> +    if (unlikely(!data))
>>>> +        return -ENOMEM;
>>>> +    data->i2c = i2c;
>>>> +
>>>> +    if (!of_node || of_property_read_u32(of_node, "lltc,mode",
>>>> &data->mode))
>>>> +        data->mode = LTC2990_CONTROL_MODE_DEFAULT;
>>>
>>> Iam arguing with myself if we should still do this or if we should read
>>> the mode
>> >from the chip instead if it isn't provided (after all, it may have been
>>> initialized
>>> by the BIOS/ROMMON).
>>
>> I think the mode should be explicitly set, without default. There's no way
>> to tell whether the BIOS or bootloader has really set it up or whether the
>> chip is just reporting whatever it happened to default to. And given the
>> chip's function, it's unlikely a bootloader would want to initialize it.
>>
> Unlikely but possible. Even if we all agree that the chip should be configured
> by the driver, I don't like imposing that view on everyone else.
>
>> My advice would be to make it a required property. If not set, display an
>> error and bail out.
>>
> It is not that easy, unfortunately. It also has to work on a non-devicetree
> system. I would not object to making the property mandatory, but we would
> still need to provide non-DT support.
>
> My "use case" for taking the current mode from the chip if not specified
> is that it would enable me to run a module test with all modes. I consider
> this extremely valuable.

Good point.

The chip defaults to measuring internal temperature only, and the mode 
defaults to "0".

Choosing a mode that doesn't match the actual circuitry could be bad for 
the chip or the board (though unlikely, it'll probably just be useless) 
since it will actively drive some of the inputs in the temperature modes 
(which is default for V3/V4 pins).

Instead of failing, one could choose to set the default mode to "7", 
which just measures the 4 voltages, which would be a harmless mode in 
all cases.

As a way to let a bootloader set things up, I think it would be a good 
check to see if CONTROL register bits 4:3 are set. If "00", the chip is 
not acquiring data at all, and probably needs configuration still. In 
that case, the mode must be provided by the devicetree (or the default "7").
If bits 4:3 are "11", it has already been set up to measure its inputs, 
and it's okay to continue doing just that and use the current value of 
2:0 register as default mode (if the devicetree didn't specify any mode 
at all).

The reason I wanted the property to be mandatory is to trigger users 
like me (probably I'm the only other user so far) to update their 
devicetree. But I'd notice quickly enough if it defaults to something 
else. So that's not very compelling.

>>> Mike, would that break your application, or can you specify the mode in
>>> devicetree ?
>>
>> I'm fine with specifying this in the devicetree. It will break things for
>> me, but I've been warned and willing to bow for the greater good :)
>>
> I should have asked if your system uses devicetree. If it does, the problem
> should be easy to fix for you. If not, we'll need to find a solution
> for your use case.

I'm using devicetree. I planned to 'mainline' the boards some time this 
year...

>
> Thanks,
> Guenter
>


-- 
Mike Looijmans


Kind regards,

Mike Looijmans
System Expert

TOPIC Products
Materiaalweg 4, NL-5681 RJ Best
Postbus 440, NL-5680 AK Best
Telefoon: +31 (0) 499 33 69 79
E-mail: mike.looijmans@topicproducts.com
Website: www.topicproducts.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-17 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-17 12:10 [PATCH v2 1/3] hwmon: ltc2990: refactor value conversion Tom Levens
2016-11-17 12:10 ` Tom Levens
2016-11-17 12:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] hwmon: ltc2990: add devicetree binding Tom Levens
2016-11-17 12:10   ` Tom Levens
2016-11-18 14:50   ` Rob Herring
2016-11-18 14:50     ` Rob Herring
2016-11-18 15:36     ` Tom Levens
2016-11-18 15:36       ` Tom Levens
2016-11-17 12:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] hwmon: ltc2990: support all measurement modes Tom Levens
2016-11-17 12:10   ` Tom Levens
2016-11-17 16:56   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-11-17 16:56     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-11-17 17:40     ` Mike Looijmans
2016-11-17 17:40       ` Mike Looijmans
2016-11-17 18:56       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-11-17 19:52         ` Mike Looijmans [this message]
2016-11-17 19:52           ` Mike Looijmans
2016-11-17 21:54           ` Guenter Roeck
2016-11-17 23:25             ` Tom Levens
2016-11-17 23:40               ` Guenter Roeck
2016-11-18 12:23                 ` Tom Levens
2016-11-18 12:23                   ` Tom Levens
2016-11-18 14:16                   ` Guenter Roeck
2017-06-28 14:24     ` Mike Looijmans
2017-06-28 14:24       ` Mike Looijmans
2017-06-28 15:01       ` Guenter Roeck
2017-06-28 15:29         ` Tom Levens
2017-06-28 15:29           ` Tom Levens
2017-06-28 16:00           ` Guenter Roeck
2017-06-28 17:02             ` Tom Levens
2017-06-28 17:02               ` Tom Levens
2017-06-28 17:33               ` Mike Looijmans
2017-06-28 17:33                 ` Mike Looijmans
2017-06-28 17:55                 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-06-28 17:55                   ` Guenter Roeck
2017-06-29  7:45               ` Mike Looijmans
2017-06-29  7:45                 ` Mike Looijmans
2017-06-29 11:46                 ` Tom Levens
2017-06-29 11:46                   ` Tom Levens
2016-11-17 15:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] hwmon: ltc2990: refactor value conversion Guenter Roeck
2016-11-17 16:23   ` Tom Levens
2016-11-17 16:23     ` Tom Levens
2016-11-17 16:36     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-11-18  8:18       ` Tom Levens
2016-11-18  8:18         ` Tom Levens
2016-11-18 14:09         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-11-18 14:17           ` Guenter Roeck

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