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From: anurupvasu@gmail.com (Anurup M)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 08/11] drivers: perf: hisi: use poll method to avoid L3C counter overflow
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 08:41:10 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58AFA44E.2060401@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170221120927.GF300@arm.com>



On Tuesday 21 February 2017 05:39 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:09:43AM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 01:51:03PM -0500, Anurup M wrote:
>>> The L3 cache PMU use N-N SPI interrupt which has no support
>>> in kernel mainline.
>> Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?
>>
>> I don't understand what is meant here. How exactly are the interrupts
>> wired up in HW, and what exactly is not supported by Linux?
>>
>>> So use hrtimer to poll and update event
>>> counter to avoid overflow condition for L3 cache PMU.
>>> A interval of 10 seconds is used for the hrtimer.
>>> The time interval can be configured in the sysfs.
>> I'm not too keen on giving userspace the ability to control this, since
>> it gives an awful lot of rope for userspace to tie around itself.
> Agreed. I'd also go a step further and say that for PMUs with either
> terminally broken interrupts (like this one) or just missing interrupts
> (like the CPU PMU on raspberry pi iirc), then the perf core should take
> care of an hrtimer in an attempt to generate samples often enough. We
> already have PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT, but it currently just disables
> sampling events.
>
> The fiddly part is knowing how to program the timer, and I think you'd
> need the PMU driver to provide an upper-bound on events per nanosecond.
> I'm pretty sure that would be highly unreliable (especially for shared
> resources such as the L3), at which point, is it worth the hassle?

Agreed, it is difficult for user to arrive at a interval for the shared 
resource
like L3 cache. So I shall remove this facility exposed to user.

Shall use a realistic and safer upper bound as hrtimer interval for the 
uncore
units which do not support IRQ.

Thanks,
Anuurp

> Will

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From: Anurup M <anurupvasu@gmail.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, anurup.m@huawei.com,
	zhangshaokun@hisilicon.com, tanxiaojun@huawei.com,
	xuwei5@hisilicon.com, sanil.kumar@hisilicon.com,
	john.garry@huawei.com, gabriele.paoloni@huawei.com,
	shiju.jose@huawei.com, huangdaode@hisilicon.com,
	linuxarm@huawei.com, dikshit.n@huawei.com, shyju.pv@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/11] drivers: perf: hisi: use poll method to avoid L3C counter overflow
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 08:41:10 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58AFA44E.2060401@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170221120927.GF300@arm.com>



On Tuesday 21 February 2017 05:39 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:09:43AM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 01:51:03PM -0500, Anurup M wrote:
>>> The L3 cache PMU use N-N SPI interrupt which has no support
>>> in kernel mainline.
>> Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?
>>
>> I don't understand what is meant here. How exactly are the interrupts
>> wired up in HW, and what exactly is not supported by Linux?
>>
>>> So use hrtimer to poll and update event
>>> counter to avoid overflow condition for L3 cache PMU.
>>> A interval of 10 seconds is used for the hrtimer.
>>> The time interval can be configured in the sysfs.
>> I'm not too keen on giving userspace the ability to control this, since
>> it gives an awful lot of rope for userspace to tie around itself.
> Agreed. I'd also go a step further and say that for PMUs with either
> terminally broken interrupts (like this one) or just missing interrupts
> (like the CPU PMU on raspberry pi iirc), then the perf core should take
> care of an hrtimer in an attempt to generate samples often enough. We
> already have PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT, but it currently just disables
> sampling events.
>
> The fiddly part is knowing how to program the timer, and I think you'd
> need the PMU driver to provide an upper-bound on events per nanosecond.
> I'm pretty sure that would be highly unreliable (especially for shared
> resources such as the L3), at which point, is it worth the hassle?

Agreed, it is difficult for user to arrive at a interval for the shared 
resource
like L3 cache. So I shall remove this facility exposed to user.

Shall use a realistic and safer upper bound as hrtimer interval for the 
uncore
units which do not support IRQ.

Thanks,
Anuurp

> Will

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-24  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-19 18:51 [PATCH v4 08/11] drivers: perf: hisi: use poll method to avoid L3C counter overflow Anurup M
2017-02-19 18:51 ` Anurup M
2017-02-20 11:09 ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-20 11:09   ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21  7:07   ` Anurup M
2017-02-21  7:07     ` Anurup M
2017-02-21  9:43     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-02-21  9:43       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-02-21 12:09   ` Will Deacon
2017-02-21 12:09     ` Will Deacon
2017-02-24  3:11     ` Anurup M [this message]
2017-02-24  3:11       ` Anurup M

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