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From: Liran Alon <LIRAN.ALON@ORACLE.COM>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	idan.brown@ORACLE.COM, yuval.shaia@ORACLE.COM
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: dev_forward_skb(): Scrub packet's per-netns info only when crossing netns
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 18:11:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5AB132C5.5010806@ORACLE.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180320.120036.1999626754164343704.davem@davemloft.net>



On 20/03/18 18:00, David Miller wrote:
> From: Liran Alon <LIRAN.ALON@ORACLE.COM>
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:34:38 +0200
>
>> I personally don't understand why we should maintain
>> backwards-comparability to this behaviour.
>
> The reason is because not breaking things is a cornerstone of Linux
> kernel development.
>
>> This feature is not documented to user-mode and I don't see why it
>> is legit for the user to rely on it.
>
> Whether it is documented or not is irrelevant.  A lot of our
> interfaces and behaviors are not documented or poorly documented
> at best.
>
>> In addition, even if we do want to maintain backwards-comparability to
>> this behaviour, I think it is enough to have an opt-in flag in
>> /proc/sys/net/core/ that when set to 1 will activate the fix in
>> dev_forward_skb() provided by this patch. That would also be a very
>> simple change to the patch provided here.
>
> Making it opt-in makes it more palatable, that's for sure.
>

1. Do we want to make a flag for every bug that is user-space visible? I 
think there is place for consideration on a per-case basis. I still 
don't see how a user can utilize this behaviour. He is basically loosing 
information (skb->mark) without this patch.

2. Having said that, I don't mind changing patch to maintain backwards 
compatibility here. However, there was also a discussion here on where 
the flag should sit. I think that a global /proc/sys/net/core/ flag 
should be enough. Do you agree it's sufficient for now?

Thanks,
-Liran

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-20 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-13 15:07 [PATCH] net: dev_forward_skb(): Scrub packet's per-netns info only when crossing netns Liran Alon
2018-03-13 16:13 ` Yuval Shaia
2018-03-14 12:03   ` Yuval Shaia
2018-03-15  9:21 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 11:56   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-15 12:50     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 15:13       ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-15 15:54         ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 17:48           ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-20 14:47 ` David Miller
2018-03-20 15:34   ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 16:00     ` David Miller
2018-03-20 16:11       ` Liran Alon [this message]
2018-03-20 16:34         ` David Miller
2018-03-20 16:39           ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 18:51             ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-03-20 21:12               ` Liran Alon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-15 12:14 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 12:23 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 14:35 ` Roman Mashak
2018-03-15 14:53   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-15 15:01 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:11 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 15:05 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:35 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:50 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 17:14 Liran Alon
2018-03-20 16:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-20 16:44   ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 17:07     ` Ben Greear
2018-03-20 18:35       ` Eric W. Biederman

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