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From: Arend van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>
To: Peter Oh <peter.oh@bowerswilkins.com>,
	Wen Gong <wgong@codeaurora.org>,
	ath10k@lists.infradead.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Change sk_pacing_shift in ieee80211_hw for best tx throughput
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:32:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B6C0A3C.3020908@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4dbcc269-1f2b-b165-fe9e-8704fd77d1c5@bowerswilkins.com>

On 8/8/2018 9:00 PM, Peter Oh wrote:
>
>
> On 08/08/2018 03:40 AM, Wen Gong wrote:
>> Add a field for ath10k to adjust the sk_pacing_shift, mac80211 set
>> the default value to 8, and ath10k will change it to 6. Then mac80211
>> will use the changed value 6 as sk_pacing_shift since 6 is the best
>> value for tx throughput by test result.
> I don't think you can convince people with the numbers unless you
> provide latency along with the numbers and also measurement result on
> different chipsets as Michal addressed (QCA4019, QCA9984, etc.) From
> users view point, I also agree on Toke that we cannot scarify latency
> for the small throughput improvement.

Yeah. The wireless industry (admittedly that is me too :-p ) has been 
focused on just throughput long enough. All the preaching about 
bufferbloat from Dave and others is (just) starting to sink in here and 
there.

Now as for the value of the sk_pacing_shift I think we agree it depends 
on the specific device so in that sense the api makes sense, but I think 
there are a lot of variables so I was wondering if we could introduce a 
sysctl parameter for it. Does that make sense?

Regards,
Arend

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From: Arend van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>
To: Peter Oh <peter.oh@bowerswilkins.com>,
	Wen Gong <wgong@codeaurora.org>,
	ath10k@lists.infradead.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Change sk_pacing_shift in ieee80211_hw for best tx throughput
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:32:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B6C0A3C.3020908@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4dbcc269-1f2b-b165-fe9e-8704fd77d1c5@bowerswilkins.com>

On 8/8/2018 9:00 PM, Peter Oh wrote:
>
>
> On 08/08/2018 03:40 AM, Wen Gong wrote:
>> Add a field for ath10k to adjust the sk_pacing_shift, mac80211 set
>> the default value to 8, and ath10k will change it to 6. Then mac80211
>> will use the changed value 6 as sk_pacing_shift since 6 is the best
>> value for tx throughput by test result.
> I don't think you can convince people with the numbers unless you
> provide latency along with the numbers and also measurement result on
> different chipsets as Michal addressed (QCA4019, QCA9984, etc.) From
> users view point, I also agree on Toke that we cannot scarify latency
> for the small throughput improvement.

Yeah. The wireless industry (admittedly that is me too :-p ) has been 
focused on just throughput long enough. All the preaching about 
bufferbloat from Dave and others is (just) starting to sink in here and 
there.

Now as for the value of the sk_pacing_shift I think we agree it depends 
on the specific device so in that sense the api makes sense, but I think 
there are a lot of variables so I was wondering if we could introduce a 
sysctl parameter for it. Does that make sense?

Regards,
Arend

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-09  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-08 10:40 [PATCH v2 0/2] Change sk_pacing_shift in ieee80211_hw for best tx throughput Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40 ` Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mac80211: Change sk_pacing_shift saved to ieee80211_hw Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40   ` Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ath10k: Set sk_pacing_shift to 6 for 11AC WiFi chips Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40   ` Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:43   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-08 10:43     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-10  8:05     ` Wen Gong
2018-08-10  8:05       ` Wen Gong
2018-08-10 13:17       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-10 13:17         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-13  5:37         ` Wen Gong
2018-08-13  5:37           ` Wen Gong
2018-08-13 11:18           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-13 11:18             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-14  5:55             ` Wen Gong
2018-08-14  5:55               ` Wen Gong
2018-08-17 11:32               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-17 11:32                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-30 23:25                 ` Peter Oh
2018-08-30 23:25                   ` Peter Oh
2018-08-31 15:36                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-31 15:36                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-30 23:32           ` Grant Grundler
2018-09-03  9:38             ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03  9:38               ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03 11:11               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-03 11:11                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-03 11:47                 ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03 11:47                   ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03 13:35                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-03 13:35                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-03 14:57                     ` Dave Taht
2018-09-03 14:57                       ` Dave Taht
2018-09-03 15:35                       ` Dave Taht
2018-09-03 15:35                         ` Dave Taht
2018-09-04 23:43                     ` Grant Grundler
2018-09-04 23:43                       ` Grant Grundler
2018-09-05  7:23                       ` Wen Gong
2018-09-05  7:23                         ` Wen Gong
2018-09-06 10:18                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-06 10:18                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-20 19:15                         ` Grant Grundler
2019-02-20 19:15                           ` Grant Grundler
2019-02-21  4:39                           ` Kalle Valo
2019-02-21  4:39                             ` Kalle Valo
2019-02-21 15:42                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 15:42                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:10                             ` Kalle Valo
2019-02-21 16:10                               ` Kalle Valo
2019-02-21 16:22                               ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 16:22                                 ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 16:37                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:37                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:57                                   ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 16:57                                     ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 17:15                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 17:15                                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 17:29                                       ` [PATCH] mac80211: Change default tx_sk_pacing_shift to 7 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 17:29                                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 12:29                                         ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-22 13:06                                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 13:06                                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 13:07                                             ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-22 13:07                                               ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-22 13:40                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 13:40                                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 19:10                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-22 19:10                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-23 11:49                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-23 11:49                                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 17:29                                       ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ath10k: Set sk_pacing_shift to 6 for 11AC WiFi chips Ben Greear
2019-02-21 17:29                                         ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 22:50                                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 22:50                                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:28                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:28                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-04-23  6:31   ` Kalle Valo
2020-04-23  6:31   ` Kalle Valo
2018-08-08 19:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Change sk_pacing_shift in ieee80211_hw for best tx throughput Peter Oh
2018-08-08 19:00   ` Peter Oh
2018-08-09  9:32   ` Arend van Spriel [this message]
2018-08-09  9:32     ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-10 13:20     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-10 13:20       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-10 19:28       ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-10 19:28         ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-10 19:52         ` Ben Greear
2018-08-10 19:52           ` Ben Greear
2018-08-11 19:21           ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-11 19:21             ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-20 12:46             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-20 12:46               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-20 15:14               ` Ben Greear
2018-08-20 15:14                 ` Ben Greear

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