From: "Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Craig Kulesa <ckulesa@as.arizona.edu>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
rwhron@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] (1/2) reverse mapping VM for 2.5.23 (rmap-13b)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:34:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6660000.1024954471@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0206191322480.2638-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
>> I'll try a more varied set of tests tonight, with cpu usage tabulated.
>
> Please do a few non-swap tests too.
>
> Swapping is the thing that rmap is supposed to _help_, so improvements in
> that area are good (and had better happen!), but if you're only looking at
> the swap performance, you're ignoring the known problems with rmap, ie the
> cases where non-rmap kernels do really well.
>
> Comparing one but not the other doesn't give a very balanced picture..
It would also be interesting to see memory consumption figures for a benchmark
with many large processes. With this type of load, memory consumption
through PTEs is already a problem - as far as I can see, rmap triples the
memory requirement of PTEs through the PTE chain's doubly linked list
(an additional 8 bytes per entry) ... perhaps my calculations are wrong?
This is particular problem for databases that tend to have thousands of
processes attatched to a large shared memory area.
A quick rough calculation indicates that the Oracle test I was helping out
with was consuming almost 10Gb of PTEs without rmap - 30Gb for overhead
doesn't sound like fun to me ;-(
M.
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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Craig Kulesa <ckulesa@as.arizona.edu>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
rwhron@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] (1/2) reverse mapping VM for 2.5.23 (rmap-13b)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:34:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6660000.1024954471@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0206191322480.2638-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
>> I'll try a more varied set of tests tonight, with cpu usage tabulated.
>
> Please do a few non-swap tests too.
>
> Swapping is the thing that rmap is supposed to _help_, so improvements in
> that area are good (and had better happen!), but if you're only looking at
> the swap performance, you're ignoring the known problems with rmap, ie the
> cases where non-rmap kernels do really well.
>
> Comparing one but not the other doesn't give a very balanced picture..
It would also be interesting to see memory consumption figures for a benchmark
with many large processes. With this type of load, memory consumption
through PTEs is already a problem - as far as I can see, rmap triples the
memory requirement of PTEs through the PTE chain's doubly linked list
(an additional 8 bytes per entry) ... perhaps my calculations are wrong?
This is particular problem for databases that tend to have thousands of
processes attatched to a large shared memory area.
A quick rough calculation indicates that the Oracle test I was helping out
with was consuming almost 10Gb of PTEs without rmap - 30Gb for overhead
doesn't sound like fun to me ;-(
M.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-24 21:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-19 11:18 [PATCH] (1/2) reverse mapping VM for 2.5.23 (rmap-13b) Craig Kulesa
2002-06-19 11:18 ` Craig Kulesa
2002-06-19 16:18 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-19 16:18 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-19 17:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-19 17:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-19 17:11 ` Dave Jones
2002-06-19 17:11 ` Dave Jones
2002-06-19 17:35 ` Rik van Riel
2002-06-19 17:35 ` Rik van Riel
2002-06-19 19:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19 19:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19 20:21 ` Craig Kulesa
2002-06-19 20:21 ` Craig Kulesa
2002-06-19 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 12:25 ` VM benchmarks for 2.5 (mainline & rmap patches) Craig Kulesa
2002-06-20 12:25 ` Craig Kulesa
2002-06-24 21:34 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2002-06-24 21:34 ` [PATCH] (1/2) reverse mapping VM for 2.5.23 (rmap-13b) Martin J. Bligh
2002-06-24 21:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-06-24 21:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-06-24 21:56 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-06-24 21:56 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-04 5:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-04 5:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-24 15:02 ` Rik van Riel
2002-06-24 15:02 ` Rik van Riel
2002-06-19 19:04 ` Steven Cole
2002-06-19 19:04 ` Steven Cole
2002-06-19 22:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-19 22:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-20 12:08 ` [PATCH] Updated rmap VM for 2.5.23 (SMP, preempt fixes) Craig Kulesa
2002-06-20 12:08 ` Craig Kulesa
2002-06-20 12:45 ` Craig Kulesa
2002-06-20 12:45 ` Craig Kulesa
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-20 4:07 [PATCH] (1/2) reverse mapping VM for 2.5.23 (rmap-13b) rwhron
2002-06-20 12:47 ` Dave Jones
2002-06-20 14:20 rwhron
2002-06-25 10:58 rwhron
2002-06-25 21:57 ` Rik van Riel
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