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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] audit: Turn off TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT when there are no rules
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:12:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6663120.dfAPuuBWIr@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX0GtSaLUB9UBeKsxOoVhiVyMzWrZTYt3O5He1Wdvz+1Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:01:36 AM Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> And I still think this needs more changes. Once again, I do not think
> >> that, say, __audit_log_bprm_fcaps() should populate context->aux if
> >> !TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT, this list can grow indefinitely. Or
> >> __audit_signal_info()...
> >> 
> >> Perhaps __audit_syscall_exit() should also set context->dummy?
> > 
> > That would work.
> > 
> > I'm still torn between trying to make it possible for things like
> > __audit_log_bprm_fcaps to start a syscall audit record in the middle
> > of a syscall or to just try to tighten up the current approach to the
> > point where it will work correctly.
> 
> This is worse than I thought.  Things like signal auditing can enter
> the audit system from outside of a syscall.  I don't think there's
> currently any way to tell whether you're in a syscall (when
> TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT is clear) so getting this to work right would
> require arch help.
> 
> I'll ask what people on the Fedora list think about just changing the
> default to -t task,never.

I can't recall ever seeing the task filter used in real life. But assuming you 
wanted to audit no tasks, what is the difference between using that filter and 
never setting audit_enable in the first place?

-Steve

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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-audit@redhat.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] audit: Turn off TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT when there are no rules
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:12:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6663120.dfAPuuBWIr@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX0GtSaLUB9UBeKsxOoVhiVyMzWrZTYt3O5He1Wdvz+1Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:01:36 AM Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> And I still think this needs more changes. Once again, I do not think
> >> that, say, __audit_log_bprm_fcaps() should populate context->aux if
> >> !TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT, this list can grow indefinitely. Or
> >> __audit_signal_info()...
> >> 
> >> Perhaps __audit_syscall_exit() should also set context->dummy?
> > 
> > That would work.
> > 
> > I'm still torn between trying to make it possible for things like
> > __audit_log_bprm_fcaps to start a syscall audit record in the middle
> > of a syscall or to just try to tighten up the current approach to the
> > point where it will work correctly.
> 
> This is worse than I thought.  Things like signal auditing can enter
> the audit system from outside of a syscall.  I don't think there's
> currently any way to tell whether you're in a syscall (when
> TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT is clear) so getting this to work right would
> require arch help.
> 
> I'll ask what people on the Fedora list think about just changing the
> default to -t task,never.

I can't recall ever seeing the task filter used in real life. But assuming you 
wanted to audit no tasks, what is the difference between using that filter and 
never setting audit_enable in the first place?

-Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-08 21:06 [PATCH v3] audit: Turn off TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT when there are no rules Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-10 16:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-10 17:29   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-10 17:47     ` Steve Grubb
2014-02-10 18:05       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-10 19:01     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-10 19:12       ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2014-02-10 19:12         ` Steve Grubb
2014-02-10 20:04         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-18 17:32           ` Eric Paris
2014-02-18 17:31       ` Eric Paris
2014-02-18 20:17 ` Eric Paris
2014-02-18 20:17   ` Eric Paris

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