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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Zhongwei Cai' <sunrise_l@sjtu.edu.cn>,
	Mingkai Dong <mingkaidong@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Wang Jianchao <jianchao.wan9@gmail.com>,
	"Tadakamadla, Rajesh" <rajesh.tadakamadla@hpe.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>
Subject: RE: Expense of read_iter
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 14:06:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <68567cb68fec4d79be79a655301effe1@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2041983017.5681521.1610459100858.JavaMail.zimbra@sjtu.edu.cn>

From: Zhongwei Cai
> Sent: 12 January 2021 13:45
..
> The overhead mainly consists of two parts. The first is constructing
> struct iov_iter and iterating it (i.e., new_sync, _copy_mc_to_iter and
> iov_iter_init). The second is the dax io mechanism provided by VFS (i.e.,
> dax_iomap_rw, iomap_apply and ext4_iomap_begin).

Setting up an iov_iter with a single buffer ought to be relatively
cheap - compared to a file system read.

The iteration should be over the total length
calling copy_from/to_iter() for 'chunks' that don't
depend on the size of the iov[] fragments.

So copy_to/from_iter() should directly replace the copy_to/from_user()
calls in the 'read' method.
For a single buffer this really ought to be noise as well.

Clearly is the iov[] has a lot of short fragments the copy
will be more expensive.

Access to /dev/null and /dev/zero are much more likely to show
the additional costs of the iov_iter code than fs code.


	David

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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Zhongwei Cai' <sunrise_l@sjtu.edu.cn>,
	Mingkai Dong <mingkaidong@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Wang Jianchao <jianchao.wan9@gmail.com>,
	"Tadakamadla, Rajesh" <rajesh.tadakamadla@hpe.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>
Subject: RE: Expense of read_iter
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 14:06:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <68567cb68fec4d79be79a655301effe1@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2041983017.5681521.1610459100858.JavaMail.zimbra@sjtu.edu.cn>

From: Zhongwei Cai
> Sent: 12 January 2021 13:45
..
> The overhead mainly consists of two parts. The first is constructing
> struct iov_iter and iterating it (i.e., new_sync, _copy_mc_to_iter and
> iov_iter_init). The second is the dax io mechanism provided by VFS (i.e.,
> dax_iomap_rw, iomap_apply and ext4_iomap_begin).

Setting up an iov_iter with a single buffer ought to be relatively
cheap - compared to a file system read.

The iteration should be over the total length
calling copy_from/to_iter() for 'chunks' that don't
depend on the size of the iov[] fragments.

So copy_to/from_iter() should directly replace the copy_to/from_user()
calls in the 'read' method.
For a single buffer this really ought to be noise as well.

Clearly is the iov[] has a lot of short fragments the copy
will be more expensive.

Access to /dev/null and /dev/zero are much more likely to show
the additional costs of the iov_iter code than fs code.


	David

-
Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-12 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-07 13:15 [RFC v2] nvfs: a filesystem for persistent memory Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-07 13:15 ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-07 15:11 ` Expense of read_iter Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-07 15:11   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-07 16:43   ` Mingkai Dong
2021-01-07 16:43     ` Mingkai Dong
2021-01-12 13:45     ` Zhongwei Cai
2021-01-12 14:06       ` David Laight [this message]
2021-01-12 14:06         ` David Laight
2021-01-13 16:44       ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-13 16:44         ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-15  9:40         ` Zhongwei Cai
2021-01-20  4:47           ` Dave Chinner
2021-01-20  4:47             ` Dave Chinner
2021-01-20 14:18             ` Jan Kara
2021-01-20 14:18               ` Jan Kara
2021-01-20 15:12               ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-20 15:12                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-20 15:44                 ` David Laight
2021-01-20 15:44                   ` David Laight
2021-01-21 15:47                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-21 15:47                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-21 16:06                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-21 16:06                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-21 16:30               ` Zhongwei Cai
2021-01-07 18:59   ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-07 18:59     ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-10  6:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-10  6:13       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-10 21:19       ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-10 21:19         ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11  0:18         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-11  0:18           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-11 21:10           ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 21:10             ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 10:11       ` David Laight
2021-01-11 10:11         ` David Laight
2021-01-10 16:20 ` [RFC v2] nvfs: a filesystem for persistent memory Al Viro
2021-01-10 16:20   ` Al Viro
2021-01-10 16:51   ` Al Viro
2021-01-10 16:51     ` Al Viro
2021-01-10 21:14   ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-10 21:14     ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-10 23:40     ` Al Viro
2021-01-10 23:40       ` Al Viro
2021-01-11 11:41       ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 11:41         ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 10:29   ` David Laight
2021-01-11 10:29     ` David Laight
2021-01-11 11:44     ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 11:44       ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 11:57       ` David Laight
2021-01-11 11:57         ` David Laight
2021-01-11 14:43         ` Al Viro
2021-01-11 14:43           ` Al Viro
2021-01-11 14:54           ` David Laight
2021-01-11 14:54             ` David Laight

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