RE: [OE-core] [PATCH 2/2] oe-setup-builddir: Do not hardcode invalid paths for templates

[Peter Kjellerstedt <peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>
> Sent: den 27 september 2022 19:05
> To: Peter Kjellerstedt <peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com>
> Cc: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>; OE-core
> <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
> Subject: Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 2/2] oe-setup-builddir: Do not hardcode
> invalid paths for templates
> 
> On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 18:06, Peter Kjellerstedt
> <peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com> wrote:
> > I (and the small team I am part of) is the proxy between them and Yocto.
> > Thus I try to address their needs by making sure new versions of Yocto
> > continues to work for them without having 500+ developers facing the
> > same problems. I.e., it is my job to work with upstream, which is what
> > I am trying to do here.
> 
> Excuse me, but your job is not to 'work with upstream'. Your job is to
> make damn sure 'upstream' continues to exist. Which means: go to your
> management, describe the situation we're in (you have the numbers),

Which is exactly why I have worked on and finally convinced my 
management that it is important for us to become a Yocto member, 
which we now are.

> and ask that they allocate at least one developer to work in upstream
> full time. 

That is harder. We have a hard enough time to recruit people to 
our tools team (which includes the build team that I am part of) 
as it is. For some reason, working with tools and build systems 
apparently is not as sexy as working with web development and AI.

> Not drive-by patches to fix your specific product problems,

I'm sorry to hear that you think all I do is drive-by patches. 
I thought my contributions were a little bit more appreciated 
than that. :(

> but upstream proper: something that makes the project sustainable,
> e.g. fixing medium+/high bugs, working on new features, upgrading
> recipes, sending pending patches upstream. This works never ends, and
> no one wants to do it.

And I can assure you that everyone appreciate the ungrateful 
work you and others do to keep things running. We really do.
 
> If you can do this, I promise to be more sympathetic to your
> particular issues, but as things stand, it's rather difficult.
> 
> Alex

//Peter