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Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 00/40] DEPT(DEPendency Tracker)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 12:12:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6bc50779-1daa-4d1f-9374-ef784cd6fc0d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ao0AieB7zg5FKD39@casper.infradead.org>

>>> It's interesting, that for writeback we never unlock the folio on the I/O path,
>>> but instead have the dedicated page flag to tell us when writeback is complete.
>>
>> PG_locked and PG_writeback are two different lock-bits with two
>> different meanings.
>> When a folio is PG_locked the content is invalid and shouldn't be accessed.
>> When a folio is in PG_writeback its data is not safe even though
>> PG_dirty has been cleared (if I remember correctly).
>>
>> So these are two separate, though related, lock bits that would both
>> need to be tracked.  lockdep would detect how they are related.
> 
> Some history ... before we had PG_writeback, we held PG_locked
> throughout the writeback process.  People argued convincingly that it
> was fine to map a page into a process's address space (which requires
> PG_locked) while it was being written back.  And so PG_locked was
> split.  Now we take PG_locked at the beginning of the writeback process
> and downgrade to PG_writeback at some point.

Right, conceptually I would have thought we could do something similar on the
readahead path. PG_uptodate is likely not what we want I suspect.

Not that such a change would be easy, or that we should do it; just one thing
that came to mind.

-- 
Cheers,

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-25 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-06  6:18 [PATCH v19 00/40] DEPT(DEPendency Tracker) Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 01/40] dept: implement " Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 02/40] dept: add single event dependency tracker APIs Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 03/40] dept: add lock " Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 04/40] dept: tie to lockdep and IRQ tracing Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  6:54     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 05/40] dept: add proc knobs to show stats and dependency graph Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 06/40] dept: distinguish each kernel context from another Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 07/40] dept: distinguish each work " Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  6:40     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 08/40] dept: add a mechanism to refill the internal memory pools on running out Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 09/40] dept: record the latest one out of consecutive waits of the same class Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 10/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to wait_for_completion()/complete() Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:18   ` [PATCH v19 10/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start, end}() " Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:18 ` [PATCH v19 11/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to swait Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 12/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19   ` [PATCH v19 12/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start, end}() " Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 13/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to hashed-waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19   ` [PATCH v19 13/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start, end}() " Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  6:42     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 14/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to dma fence Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19   ` [PATCH v19 14/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start, end}() " Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 15/40] dept: track timeout waits separately with a new Kconfig Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 16/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to wait_for_completion()/complete() Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 17/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to swait Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 18/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 19/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to hashed-waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  6:41     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 20/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to dma fence wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 21/40] dept: make dept able to work with an external wgen Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 22/40] dept: track PG_locked with dept Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 18:05   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-07-07  2:35     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 23/40] dept: print staged wait's stacktrace on report Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 24/40] locking/lockdep: prevent various lockdep assertions when lockdep_off()'ed Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 25/40] dept: add documents for dept Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 26/40] cpu/hotplug: use a weaker annotation in AP thread Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 27/40] dept: assign dept map to mmu notifier invalidation synchronization Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 28/40] dept: assign unique dept_key to each distinct dma fence caller Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  6:24     ` Byungchul Park
2026-08-25 12:33   ` Yunseong Kim
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 29/40] dept: make dept aware of lockdep_set_lock_cmp_fn() annotation Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  6:04     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 30/40] dept: make dept stop from working on debug_locks_off() Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 31/40] dept: assign unique dept_key to each distinct wait_for_completion() caller Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-07 14:18   ` Gary Guo
2026-07-10  5:53     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 32/40] completion, dept: introduce init_completion_dmap() API Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  6:12     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 33/40] dept: call dept_hardirqs_off() in local_irq_*() regardless of irq state Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 34/40] rcu/update: fix same dept key collision between various types of RCU Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  6:20     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 35/40] dept: introduce APIs to set page usage and use subclasses_evt for the usage Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 36/40] dept: track PG_writeback with dept Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 37/40] SUNRPC: relocate struct rcu_head to the first field of struct rpc_xprt Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 38/40] mm: percpu: increase PERCPU_DYNAMIC_SIZE_SHIFT on DEPT and large PAGE_SIZE Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  5:55     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 39/40] rust: completion: Add __rust_helper to rust_helper_wait_for_completion() Byungchul Park
2026-07-11 12:13   ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-07-13  3:36     ` Byungchul Park
2026-07-06  6:19 ` [PATCH v19 40/40] dept: implement a basic unit test for dept Byungchul Park
2026-07-07  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 11:32 ` [syzbot ci] Re: DEPT(DEPendency Tracker) syzbot ci
2026-08-20 17:16 ` [PATCH v19 00/40] " David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 17:51   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-21  4:51     ` Byungchul Park
2026-08-21  7:37     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-21  4:21   ` Byungchul Park
2026-08-21  7:56     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-21  9:48       ` NeilBrown
2026-08-24 14:12         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 23:37           ` NeilBrown
2026-08-25  2:40             ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-25  3:41               ` NeilBrown
2026-08-25 10:12               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-08-25 10:15             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-25 13:08         ` Byungchul Park
2026-08-25 12:13       ` Byungchul Park
2026-08-25 13:10         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-25 13:19           ` Byungchul Park

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