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From: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS ,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>," 
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm-owner@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu: Demote error messages to debug in shutdown callback
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 13:47:03 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c82e688f335b9c07b0f52987244664b@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=VBM6cS1UmWTUJ2vrt0a2zn7xV3C53tpthBx58M2=1JPg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 2020-04-23 01:19, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:53 AM Sai Prakash Ranjan
> <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Will,
>> 
>> On 2020-03-31 13:14, Will Deacon wrote:
>> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 01:06:11PM +0530, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>> >> On 2020-03-30 23:54, Doug Anderson wrote:
>> >> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 12:35 AM Sai Prakash Ranjan
>> >> > <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Of course the fact that in practice we'll *always* see the warning
>> >> > > > because there's no way to tear down the default DMA domains, and even
>> >> > > > if all devices *have* been nicely quiesced there's no way to tell, is
>> >> > > > certainly less than ideal. Like I say, it's not entirely clear-cut
>> >> > > > either way...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks for these examples, good to know these scenarios in case we
>> >> > > come
>> >> > > across these.
>> >> > > However, if we see these error/warning messages appear everytime then
>> >> > > what will be
>> >> > > the credibility of these messages? We will just ignore these messages
>> >> > > when
>> >> > > these issues you mention actually appears because we see them
>> >> > > everytime
>> >> > > on
>> >> > > reboot or shutdown.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would agree that if these messages are expected to be seen every
>> >> > time, there's no way to fix them, and they're not indicative of any
>> >> > problem then something should be done.  Seeing something printed at
>> >> > "dev_error" level with an exclamation point (!) at the end makes me
>> >> > feel like this is something that needs immediate action on my part.
>> >> >
>> >> > If we really can't do better but feel that the messages need to be
>> >> > there, at least make them dev_info and less scary like:
>> >> >
>> >> >   arm-smmu 15000000.iommu: turning off; DMA should be quiesced before
>> >> > now
>> >> >
>> >> > ...that would still give you a hint in the logs that if you saw a DMA
>> >> > transaction after the message that it was a bug but also wouldn't
>> >> > sound scary to someone who wasn't seeing any other problems.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> We can do this if Robin is OK?
>> >
>> > It would be nice if you could figure out which domains are still live
>> > when
>> > the SMMU is being shut down in your case and verify that it *is* infact
>> > benign before we start making the message more friendly. As Robin said
>> > earlier, rogue DMA is a real nightmare to debug.
>> >
>> 
>> I could see this error message for all the clients of apps_smmu.
>> I checked manually enabling bypass and removing iommus dt property
>> for each client of apps_smmu.
> 
> Any update on the status here?  If I'm reading the conversation above,
> Robin said: "we'll *always* see the warning because there's no way to
> tear down the default DMA domains, and even if all devices *have* been
> nicely quiesced there's no way to tell".  Did I understand that
> properly?  If so, it seems like it's fully expected to see this
> message on every reboot and it doesn't necessarily signify anything
> bad.
> 

Understanding is the same, waiting for Will and Robin to check if its OK
to make the message more friendly.

-Sai
-- 
QUALCOMM INDIA, on behalf of Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a 
member
of Code Aurora Forum, hosted by The Linux Foundation

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm-owner@vger.kernel.org, "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS ,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu: Demote error messages to debug in shutdown callback
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 13:47:03 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c82e688f335b9c07b0f52987244664b@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=VBM6cS1UmWTUJ2vrt0a2zn7xV3C53tpthBx58M2=1JPg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 2020-04-23 01:19, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:53 AM Sai Prakash Ranjan
> <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Will,
>> 
>> On 2020-03-31 13:14, Will Deacon wrote:
>> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 01:06:11PM +0530, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>> >> On 2020-03-30 23:54, Doug Anderson wrote:
>> >> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 12:35 AM Sai Prakash Ranjan
>> >> > <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Of course the fact that in practice we'll *always* see the warning
>> >> > > > because there's no way to tear down the default DMA domains, and even
>> >> > > > if all devices *have* been nicely quiesced there's no way to tell, is
>> >> > > > certainly less than ideal. Like I say, it's not entirely clear-cut
>> >> > > > either way...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks for these examples, good to know these scenarios in case we
>> >> > > come
>> >> > > across these.
>> >> > > However, if we see these error/warning messages appear everytime then
>> >> > > what will be
>> >> > > the credibility of these messages? We will just ignore these messages
>> >> > > when
>> >> > > these issues you mention actually appears because we see them
>> >> > > everytime
>> >> > > on
>> >> > > reboot or shutdown.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would agree that if these messages are expected to be seen every
>> >> > time, there's no way to fix them, and they're not indicative of any
>> >> > problem then something should be done.  Seeing something printed at
>> >> > "dev_error" level with an exclamation point (!) at the end makes me
>> >> > feel like this is something that needs immediate action on my part.
>> >> >
>> >> > If we really can't do better but feel that the messages need to be
>> >> > there, at least make them dev_info and less scary like:
>> >> >
>> >> >   arm-smmu 15000000.iommu: turning off; DMA should be quiesced before
>> >> > now
>> >> >
>> >> > ...that would still give you a hint in the logs that if you saw a DMA
>> >> > transaction after the message that it was a bug but also wouldn't
>> >> > sound scary to someone who wasn't seeing any other problems.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> We can do this if Robin is OK?
>> >
>> > It would be nice if you could figure out which domains are still live
>> > when
>> > the SMMU is being shut down in your case and verify that it *is* infact
>> > benign before we start making the message more friendly. As Robin said
>> > earlier, rogue DMA is a real nightmare to debug.
>> >
>> 
>> I could see this error message for all the clients of apps_smmu.
>> I checked manually enabling bypass and removing iommus dt property
>> for each client of apps_smmu.
> 
> Any update on the status here?  If I'm reading the conversation above,
> Robin said: "we'll *always* see the warning because there's no way to
> tear down the default DMA domains, and even if all devices *have* been
> nicely quiesced there's no way to tell".  Did I understand that
> properly?  If so, it seems like it's fully expected to see this
> message on every reboot and it doesn't necessarily signify anything
> bad.
> 

Understanding is the same, waiting for Will and Robin to check if its OK
to make the message more friendly.

-Sai
-- 
QUALCOMM INDIA, on behalf of Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a 
member
of Code Aurora Forum, hosted by The Linux Foundation
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-23  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-27 13:28 [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu: Demote error messages to debug in shutdown callback Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-27 13:28 ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-27 14:12 ` Robin Murphy
2020-03-27 14:12   ` Robin Murphy
2020-03-27 15:09   ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-27 15:09     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-27 16:17     ` Rob Clark
2020-03-27 16:17       ` Rob Clark
2020-03-27 18:18       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-27 18:18         ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-27 19:02     ` Robin Murphy
2020-03-27 19:02       ` Robin Murphy
2020-03-28  7:35       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-28  7:35         ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-30 18:24         ` Doug Anderson
2020-03-30 18:24           ` Doug Anderson
2020-03-31  7:36           ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-31  7:36             ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-31  7:44             ` Will Deacon
2020-03-31  7:44               ` Will Deacon
2020-03-31  7:53               ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-03-31  7:53                 ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-04-22 19:49                 ` Doug Anderson
2020-04-22 19:49                   ` Doug Anderson
2020-04-23  8:17                   ` Sai Prakash Ranjan [this message]
2020-04-23  8:17                     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-04-23  9:28                     ` Robin Murphy
2020-04-23  9:28                       ` Robin Murphy
2020-04-23  9:41                       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-04-23  9:41                         ` Sai Prakash Ranjan

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