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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Stephen Smalley" <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff Xu" <jeffxu@google.com>,
	"Thiébaud Weksteen" <tweek@google.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] proc: query LSMs for introspective mem access (if PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2026 19:22:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <741a833d-6889-4ee6-9322-d6a3a8b95893@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260818-selinux-pokemem-v1-2-90cd2357ee05@google.com>

On 8/18/26 21:51, Jann Horn wrote:
> If the system is running with PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS, LSMs currently have no
> good opportunity to block a process from overwriting read-only code in its
> own address space through FOLL_FORCE writes via /proc/self/mem.
> The security_ptrace_access_check() LSM hook is bypassed when a process
> opens /proc/self/mem because this is considered "introspection".
> 
> This causes a hole in SELinux EXECMEM enforcement, which tries to ensure
> that a process cannot create executable anonymous pages.
> 
> PROC_MEM_FORCE_PTRACE prevents that and ensures that such FOLL_FORCE
> accesses are only possible when the LSM allows ptrace() attachment; but it
> is unclear how quickly PROC_MEM_FORCE_PTRACE can be deployed in
> environments running lots of third-party code, such as Android.
> 
> So, introduce a new LSM hook that can forbid FOLL_FORCE specifically for
> such "introspective" accesses.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
> ---
>  fs/proc/base.c                |  6 ++++++
>  include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h |  1 +
>  include/linux/security.h      |  6 ++++++
>  security/security.c           | 15 +++++++++++++++
>  4 files changed, 28 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/fs/proc/base.c b/fs/proc/base.c
> index bec6197329dc..3dfaef49bb70 100644
> --- a/fs/proc/base.c
> +++ b/fs/proc/base.c
> @@ -851,6 +851,8 @@ static int __mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file, unsigned int mode)
>  /* private_data for proc_mem_operations */
>  struct mem_private {
>  	struct mm_struct *mm;
> +	/* Was the ptrace access check bypassed due to introspection? */
> +	bool introspection;
>  };
>  
>  static int mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file)
> @@ -864,12 +866,14 @@ static int mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file)
>  	priv->mm = proc_mem_open(inode, PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH);
>  	if (IS_ERR_OR_NULL(priv->mm))
>  		return priv->mm ? PTR_ERR(priv->mm) : -ESRCH;
> +	priv->introspection = priv->mm == current->mm;

Is the feat that the fd could be passed to someone else that would then not be
detected as introspection?

I'm just wondering why we cannot perform this check in proc_mem_foll_force() and
avoid rememebring "introspection".


-- 
Cheers,

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-20 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-18 19:51 [PATCH 0/3] proc,security,selinux: let SELinux block FOLL_FORCE for /proc/self/mem Jann Horn
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] proc: refactor /proc/$pid/mem to use struct as private_data Jann Horn
2026-08-18 19:58   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-20 11:20   ` Jan Kara
2026-08-20 17:18   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-21 18:34   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] proc: query LSMs for introspective mem access (if PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS) Jann Horn
2026-08-18 20:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-20 17:22   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-08-20 18:44     ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 14:18       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-21 14:48         ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 18:52           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 17:06             ` Jann Horn
2026-08-24 17:32               ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 17:43                 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 19:00   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 17:28     ` Jann Horn
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 3/3] selinux: require EXECMEM or PTRACE for FOLL_FORCE introspection Jann Horn
2026-08-18 19:58   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-19 14:54   ` Stephen Smalley
2026-08-20 15:23     ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 13:52       ` Stephen Smalley
2026-08-21 15:07         ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 18:56   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 17:17     ` Jann Horn

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