From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
"Stephen Smalley" <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
"Jeff Xu" <jeffxu@google.com>,
"Thiébaud Weksteen" <tweek@google.com>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
"Ondrej Mosnacek" <omosnace@redhat.com>,
selinux@vger.kernel.org,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
"Pedro Falcato" <pfalcato@suse.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] proc: query LSMs for introspective mem access (if PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2026 19:52:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoibvf6CY99IXynk@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez2bZEV+3ww2x9XV_5vRPZ_3jU_zg6+h=BDKQ94Xrd3Tqg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 21, 2026 at 04:48:32PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2026 at 4:19 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On 8/20/26 20:44, Jann Horn wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 7:22 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> > > <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >> On 8/18/26 21:51, Jann Horn wrote:
> > >>> If the system is running with PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS, LSMs currently have no
> > >>> good opportunity to block a process from overwriting read-only code in its
> > >>> own address space through FOLL_FORCE writes via /proc/self/mem.
> > >>> The security_ptrace_access_check() LSM hook is bypassed when a process
> > >>> opens /proc/self/mem because this is considered "introspection".
> > >>>
> > >>> This causes a hole in SELinux EXECMEM enforcement, which tries to ensure
> > >>> that a process cannot create executable anonymous pages.
> > >>>
> > >>> PROC_MEM_FORCE_PTRACE prevents that and ensures that such FOLL_FORCE
> > >>> accesses are only possible when the LSM allows ptrace() attachment; but it
> > >>> is unclear how quickly PROC_MEM_FORCE_PTRACE can be deployed in
> > >>> environments running lots of third-party code, such as Android.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, introduce a new LSM hook that can forbid FOLL_FORCE specifically for
> > >>> such "introspective" accesses.
> > >>>
> > >>> Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> fs/proc/base.c | 6 ++++++
> > >>> include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h | 1 +
> > >>> include/linux/security.h | 6 ++++++
> > >>> security/security.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
> > >>> 4 files changed, 28 insertions(+)
> > >>>
> > >>> diff --git a/fs/proc/base.c b/fs/proc/base.c
> > >>> index bec6197329dc..3dfaef49bb70 100644
> > >>> --- a/fs/proc/base.c
> > >>> +++ b/fs/proc/base.c
> > >>> @@ -851,6 +851,8 @@ static int __mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file, unsigned int mode)
> > >>> /* private_data for proc_mem_operations */
> > >>> struct mem_private {
> > >>> struct mm_struct *mm;
> > >>> + /* Was the ptrace access check bypassed due to introspection? */
> > >>> + bool introspection;
> > >>> };
> > >>>
> > >>> static int mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file)
> > >>> @@ -864,12 +866,14 @@ static int mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file)
> > >>> priv->mm = proc_mem_open(inode, PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH);
> > >>> if (IS_ERR_OR_NULL(priv->mm))
> > >>> return priv->mm ? PTR_ERR(priv->mm) : -ESRCH;
> > >>> + priv->introspection = priv->mm == current->mm;
> > >>
> > >> Is the feat that the fd could be passed to someone else that would then not be
> > >> detected as introspection?
> > >
> > > Yes, exactly, that's the primary reason why I did it this way.
> >
> > Okay, would "opened_by_owner" or something like that be clearer? At least
> > "introspection" is less intuitive for me.
>
> Ack, I'll rename it to something like that for the next version.
I agree the naming is confusing.
OK so the whole thing is:
mem_open()
-> __mem_open()
-> proc_mem_open()
-> mm_access()
-> may_access_mm()
And:
static bool may_access_mm(struct mm_struct *mm, struct task_struct *task, unsigned int mode)
{
if (mm == current->mm)
return true;
...
}
And what this flag is carrying is 'hey the reason we allowed the _open_ is
because it's looking at its own address space'.
I did wonder if what you're protecting against is even a process updating
execmem _it_ owns, no fd shared anywhere, as something LSM might want to
prevent even so?
The sharing a /proc/mem fd seems like that's a pretty dumb thing to do in
general :) but I guess you have to protect against that.
But TL;DR I agree with David on the naming, opened_by_owner is probably the
least-worst way of saying it very plainly and covers both cases.
--
Cheers, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-21 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-18 19:51 [PATCH 0/3] proc,security,selinux: let SELinux block FOLL_FORCE for /proc/self/mem Jann Horn
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] proc: refactor /proc/$pid/mem to use struct as private_data Jann Horn
2026-08-18 19:58 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-20 11:20 ` Jan Kara
2026-08-20 17:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-21 18:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] proc: query LSMs for introspective mem access (if PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS) Jann Horn
2026-08-18 20:00 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-20 17:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:44 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 14:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-21 14:48 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 18:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-08-21 19:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 3/3] selinux: require EXECMEM or PTRACE for FOLL_FORCE introspection Jann Horn
2026-08-18 19:58 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-19 14:54 ` Stephen Smalley
2026-08-20 15:23 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 13:52 ` Stephen Smalley
2026-08-21 15:07 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 18:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
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