From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rfc] increase struct page size?!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:42:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7554.1179481350@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070518040854.GA15654@wotan.suse.de>
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
> I'd like to be the first to propose an increase to the size of struct page
> just for the sake of increasing it!
Heh. I'm surprised you haven't got more adverse reactions.
> If we add 8 bytes to struct page on 64-bit machines, it becomes 64 bytes,
> which is quite a nice number for cache purposes.
Whilst that's true, if you have to deal with a run of contiguous page structs
(eg: the page allocator, perhaps) it's actually less efficient because it
takes more cache to do it. But, hey, it's a compromise whatever.
In the scheme of things, if we're mostly dealing with individual page structs
(as I think we are), then yes, I think it's probably a good thing to do -
especially with larger page sizes.
> However we don't have to let those 8 bytes go to waste: we can use them
> to store the virtual address of the page, which kind of makes sense for
> 64-bit, because they can likely to use complicated memory models.
That's a good idea, one that's implemented on some platforms anyway. It'll be
especially good with NUMA, I suspect.
> I'd say all up this is going to decrease overall cache footprint in
> fastpaths, both by reducing text and data footprint of page_address and
> related operations, and by reducing cacheline footprint of most batched
> operations on struct pages.
kmap, filling in scatter/gather lists, crypto stuff. I like it.
Can you do this just by turning on WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL on all 64-bit platforms?
David
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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rfc] increase struct page size?!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:42:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7554.1179481350@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070518040854.GA15654@wotan.suse.de>
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
> I'd like to be the first to propose an increase to the size of struct page
> just for the sake of increasing it!
Heh. I'm surprised you haven't got more adverse reactions.
> If we add 8 bytes to struct page on 64-bit machines, it becomes 64 bytes,
> which is quite a nice number for cache purposes.
Whilst that's true, if you have to deal with a run of contiguous page structs
(eg: the page allocator, perhaps) it's actually less efficient because it
takes more cache to do it. But, hey, it's a compromise whatever.
In the scheme of things, if we're mostly dealing with individual page structs
(as I think we are), then yes, I think it's probably a good thing to do -
especially with larger page sizes.
> However we don't have to let those 8 bytes go to waste: we can use them
> to store the virtual address of the page, which kind of makes sense for
> 64-bit, because they can likely to use complicated memory models.
That's a good idea, one that's implemented on some platforms anyway. It'll be
especially good with NUMA, I suspect.
> I'd say all up this is going to decrease overall cache footprint in
> fastpaths, both by reducing text and data footprint of page_address and
> related operations, and by reducing cacheline footprint of most batched
> operations on struct pages.
kmap, filling in scatter/gather lists, crypto stuff. I like it.
Can you do this just by turning on WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL on all 64-bit platforms?
David
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-18 4:08 [rfc] increase struct page size?! Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 4:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 4:47 ` David Miller
2007-05-18 4:47 ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 5:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 5:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 5:22 ` David Miller
2007-05-18 5:22 ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 5:31 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 5:31 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 18:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-18 18:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-18 7:19 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-18 7:19 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-18 7:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 7:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-18 7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-18 7:59 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 7:59 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 9:42 ` David Howells [this message]
2007-05-18 9:42 ` David Howells
2007-05-19 1:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-19 1:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-19 1:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-18 12:06 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-18 12:06 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-18 15:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-18 15:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-19 1:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-19 1:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-19 17:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-19 17:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-20 22:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-05-20 22:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-05-18 18:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-18 18:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-18 20:37 ` Luck, Tony
2007-05-18 20:37 ` Luck, Tony
2007-05-18 20:37 ` Luck, Tony
2007-05-21 6:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-05-21 6:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-05-19 1:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-19 1:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-19 2:03 ` [rfc] increase struct page size?! (now sparsemem vmemmap) Christoph Lameter
2007-05-19 2:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-19 15:43 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-19 15:43 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-19 18:15 ` [rfc] increase struct page size?! William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-19 18:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-19 18:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-19 18:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-20 4:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-20 4:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-20 12:56 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-20 12:56 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-21 17:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-21 17:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-22 0:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-05-22 0:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-05-22 0:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-22 0:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-22 0:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-05-22 0:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-05-22 9:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-22 9:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-19 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-19 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-20 7:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-20 7:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-21 9:12 ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21 9:12 ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21 9:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-21 9:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-20 5:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-20 5:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-20 8:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-20 8:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-20 9:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-20 9:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-21 8:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-21 8:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-21 9:27 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-21 9:27 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-21 11:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-21 11:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-22 0:52 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-22 0:52 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-21 22:43 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-21 22:43 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-22 1:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-22 1:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-22 1:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-22 1:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-22 1:39 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-22 1:39 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-22 1:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-22 1:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-22 5:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-22 5:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-22 6:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-22 6:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-22 10:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-22 10:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-21 9:31 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-21 9:31 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-21 17:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-21 17:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-20 17:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-05-20 17:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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