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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 15/21] x86/virt/tdx: Refresh TDX module version after update
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:35:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <793ac5a9339a4de0cc4571a33d99f2f1fe649980.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28be5180-ff74-4e4d-b392-7ba7a9b4c1c0@intel.com>

On Thu, 2026-04-30 at 12:14 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > Do not refresh the rest of tdx_sysinfo. Refreshing them at runtime could
> > disrupt running software that relies on the previously reported values.
> 
> This needs more explanation. I think the reasoning is quite nuanced.
> 
> tdx_sysinfo is just a cache of what the TDX module is and can do. If
> that changes, it means the TDX module changed. So you somehow need to
> argue why it's OK to hide those changes from the tdx_sysinfo users.
> 
> Why would they be confused by tdx_sysinfo changes but not by the TDX
> module *itself* changing?

We shouldn't refresh them because they don't change, right Chao? It's not
because we are hiding things?

> 
> > Note that major and minor versions are not refreshed because runtime updates
> > are supported only between releases with identical major and minor versions.
> 
> I'd rather have this in code than a changelog comment.
> 
> If they can't change then warn if they do.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-30 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-27 15:27 [PATCH v8 00/21] Runtime TDX module update support Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:27 ` [PATCH v8 01/21] x86/virt/tdx: Move low level SEAMCALL helpers out of <asm/tdx.h> Chao Gao
2026-04-27 18:12   ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-04-27 15:27 ` [PATCH v8 02/21] coco/tdx-host: Introduce a "tdx_host" device Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:27 ` [PATCH v8 03/21] coco/tdx-host: Expose TDX module version Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:27 ` [PATCH v8 04/21] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce a wrapper for P-SEAMLDR SEAMCALLs Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:27 ` [PATCH v8 05/21] x86/virt/seamldr: Add a helper to retrieve P-SEAMLDR information Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 06/21] coco/tdx-host: Expose P-SEAMLDR information via sysfs Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 07/21] coco/tdx-host: Implement firmware upload sysfs ABI for TDX module updates Chao Gao
2026-04-29 23:17   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-06  2:35     ` Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 08/21] x86/virt/seamldr: Allocate and populate a module update request Chao Gao
2026-04-30  0:45   ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-30 21:23     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-30 21:31       ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-07 13:19     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-08 16:48       ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 09/21] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce skeleton for TDX module updates Chao Gao
2026-04-30 20:03   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-06 13:00     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-06 20:43       ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 10/21] x86/virt/seamldr: Shut down the current TDX module Chao Gao
2026-04-30 18:52   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-06  2:56     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-06 20:49       ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 11/21] x86/virt/tdx: Reset software states during TDX module shutdown Chao Gao
2026-04-30 18:58   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-06  6:21     ` Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 12/21] x86/virt/seamldr: Install a new TDX module Chao Gao
2026-04-30 19:00   ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-30 21:48     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-30 22:29       ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 13/21] x86/virt/seamldr: Do TDX per-CPU initialization after module installation Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 14/21] x86/virt/tdx: Restore TDX module state Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 15/21] x86/virt/tdx: Refresh TDX module version after update Chao Gao
2026-04-30 19:14   ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-30 21:35     ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2026-05-06 12:51     ` Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 16/21] x86/virt/tdx: Reject updates during concurrent TD build Chao Gao
2026-04-30 19:25   ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 17/21] x86/virt/seamldr: Abort updates on failure Chao Gao
2026-04-30 20:06   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-08  9:16     ` Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 18/21] coco/tdx-host: Don't expose P-SEAMLDR features on CPUs with erratum Chao Gao
2026-04-30 20:09   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-08  9:50     ` Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 19/21] x86/virt/tdx: Enable TDX module runtime updates Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 20/21] coco/tdx-host: Document TDX module update compatibility criteria Chao Gao
2026-04-27 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 21/21] x86/virt/tdx: Document TDX module update Chao Gao

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