From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hca@linux.ibm.com,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
timmurray@google.com, "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/3] mm: process_mrelease: skip LRU movement for exclusive file folios
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:09:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f98f461-62a7-455d-a7a8-cb8928465946@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afG-4hq7Hr62Uu6J@tiehlicka>
On 4/29/26 10:18, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 28-04-26 18:19:31, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 08:56:36AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
>>> DESCRIPTION
>>> The process_mrelease() system call is used to free the memory of
>>> an exiting process.
>>
>> "Free the memory of an exiting process" implies all memory, not just
>> anonymous. User cannot know it will free only anonymous, and I am trying to
>> make it work as intended by completing a symmetric reclamation path.
>
> Page cache doesn't belong to any process.
>
> [...]
>
>> >From cf292f8f8ead8df9161aad342c36633ffa90257f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
>> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 16:39:06 -0700
>> Subject: [PATCH] mm: process_mrelease: skip LRU movement and expedite clean
>> file folio reclaim
>
> I will let others to discuss this. I maintain my position that this is a
> hack for a very particular use case and you still seem to not explain
> non-Android users of the syscall. Anyway, I will not repeat myself here.
>
One thing that got lost in the thread here: this code path is not
process_mrelease specific?
We seem to end up in __oom_reap_task_mm() also from ordinary oom_reap_task_mm().
There, we unconditionally set MMF_UNSTABLE to then zap_vma_for_reaping() where
memory can be "reaped".
So why is there "process_mrelease" part of the patch subject at all?
The only other scenario where we set MMF_UNSTABLE seems to be when we run into
trouble during fork(). CCing Liam, I wonder what it would take to remove
MMF_UNSTABLE from fork code now that we handle some memory freeing while
aborting fork() "more elegantly".
Unrelated stupid question: would things be clearer if we could rename
MMF_UNSTABLE to MMF_OOM_REAPING once figure out whether aborting fork() still
really needs it?
Back to Michal's original question: I guess the real question is the interaction
with memory reclaim that would just collect the access bits beforehand.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-29 9:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-21 23:02 [PATCH v1 0/3] mm: process_mrelease: expedite clean file folio reclaim and add auto-kill Minchan Kim
2026-04-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] mm: process_mrelease: expedite clean file folio reclaim via mmu_gather Minchan Kim
2026-04-24 7:56 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-24 21:24 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-27 9:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-27 22:04 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-24 19:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-24 21:56 ` Minchan Kim
2026-05-05 14:53 ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-05-08 21:56 ` Minchan Kim
2026-05-11 16:13 ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-05-11 21:48 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] mm: process_mrelease: skip LRU movement for exclusive file folios Minchan Kim
2026-04-22 7:22 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-23 23:38 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-24 7:51 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-24 7:57 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-24 19:15 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-27 7:16 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-27 16:48 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-04-27 17:15 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-27 23:05 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-28 6:56 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-29 1:19 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-29 8:18 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-29 9:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-04-29 10:33 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-29 13:07 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29 14:44 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-30 6:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-08 20:57 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-05-11 13:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-13 6:47 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-29 21:41 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-30 14:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29 8:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29 21:42 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-24 19:26 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] mm: process_mrelease: introduce PROCESS_MRELEASE_REAP_KILL flag Minchan Kim
2026-04-24 7:57 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-24 22:49 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-27 7:02 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-27 22:03 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-28 7:01 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-28 22:37 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-29 8:25 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-29 20:01 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-04-29 21:17 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-29 21:16 ` Minchan Kim
2026-04-27 20:34 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-04-27 22:52 ` Minchan Kim
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