From: Manikanta Pubbisetty <mpubbise@codeaurora.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Sebastian Gottschall <s.gottschall@dd-wrt.com>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, ath10k@lists.infradead.org,
Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ath10k: add dynamic vlan support
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:20:17 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <80f8e88e5161f2731e67e1c0e1d7225c@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1534408023.3547.64.camel@sipsolutions.net>
On 2018-08-16 13:57, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-08-14 at 18:23 +0530, Manikanta Pubbisetty wrote:
>
>> > I don't think that makes sense. If we split the capability of AP_VLAN
>> > and AP_VLAN_FOR_4ADDR at the "root", then we don't need to play with all
>> > these things. Yes, this is slightly awkward for userspace, and perhaps
>> > with the interface combination checks, but I'd like you to look at that.
>
>> I was working on splitting the 4-addr functionality from AP/VLAN
>> iftype;
>> I have introduced a new iftype NL80211_IFTYPE_AP_4ADDR and moved the
>> 4-addr handling from AP/VLAN to this new iftype. But this approach
>> breaks the backward compatibility with older userspace applications.
>
> Yeah ...
>
> I'm confused and no longer sure what I was thinking, nor even what
> we're
> trying to achieve here...
>
I had introduced a change db3bdcb9c3ff (" mac80211: allow AP_VLAN
operation on crypto controlled devices ") for supporting VLAN
functionality on ath10k devices; this commit has broken 4 addr support
on ath10k devices as I was advertising the AP/VLAN support
conditionally. Since 4 addr operation is tied to AP/VLAN support, with
this change, only the chips which support VLAN functionality can support
4 addr operation but other ath10k chips don't.
From what I can understand from our previous discussions, we had to
separate the 4addr support from the AP/VLAN iftype but doing so could
lead to backward compatibility issues. I have the code which separates
the 4addr functionality from AP/VLAN but the bigger problem is the
backward compatibility.
I am hoping that now I have set the context correctly :)
>> Since I am completely moving the 4-addr handling to the new type,
>> older
>> applications which do not understand this new type will simply fail
>> and
>> 4-addr mode will be completely broken.
>>
>> Currently, whenever a 4-addr client attempts a connection, hostapd
>> just
>> creates a AP/VLAN interface and moves the 4-addr client to the AP/VLAN
>> iface; there are no other checks. I had no other option other than
>> going
>> with a new iftype for 4-addr handling.
>>
>> Is there a way we can maintain backward compatibility with this
>> approach? Retaining the 4-addr handling in AP/VLAN and duplicating the
>> same functionality to the new iftype seems will work but I am not sure
>> if this is the right approach.
>
> I think we have to keep the 4-addr handling in AP_VLAN iftype either
> way, to not break existing hostapd. We could introduce a separate
> AP_VLAN_NO_4ADDR and then require updating hostapd to get non-4addr
> VLAN, but that also seems awkward.
>
> Since hostapd doesn't currently check anything...
>
> Ok, no, I'm confused now. If we just clear WIPHY_FLAG_4ADDR_AP, don't
> we
> get what we want? 4-addr AP_VLAN interfaces would no longer be
> permitted
> to be created?
As I explained above, the agenda is to provide the driver (in this case,
ath10k) a better control for advertising the device capabilities; only
few ath10k chips can support VLAN functionality but all of them can
support 4 addr operation.
Manikanta
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From: Manikanta Pubbisetty <mpubbise@codeaurora.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
ath10k@lists.infradead.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
Sebastian Gottschall <s.gottschall@dd-wrt.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ath10k: add dynamic vlan support
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:20:17 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <80f8e88e5161f2731e67e1c0e1d7225c@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1534408023.3547.64.camel@sipsolutions.net>
On 2018-08-16 13:57, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-08-14 at 18:23 +0530, Manikanta Pubbisetty wrote:
>
>> > I don't think that makes sense. If we split the capability of AP_VLAN
>> > and AP_VLAN_FOR_4ADDR at the "root", then we don't need to play with all
>> > these things. Yes, this is slightly awkward for userspace, and perhaps
>> > with the interface combination checks, but I'd like you to look at that.
>
>> I was working on splitting the 4-addr functionality from AP/VLAN
>> iftype;
>> I have introduced a new iftype NL80211_IFTYPE_AP_4ADDR and moved the
>> 4-addr handling from AP/VLAN to this new iftype. But this approach
>> breaks the backward compatibility with older userspace applications.
>
> Yeah ...
>
> I'm confused and no longer sure what I was thinking, nor even what
> we're
> trying to achieve here...
>
I had introduced a change db3bdcb9c3ff (" mac80211: allow AP_VLAN
operation on crypto controlled devices ") for supporting VLAN
functionality on ath10k devices; this commit has broken 4 addr support
on ath10k devices as I was advertising the AP/VLAN support
conditionally. Since 4 addr operation is tied to AP/VLAN support, with
this change, only the chips which support VLAN functionality can support
4 addr operation but other ath10k chips don't.
From what I can understand from our previous discussions, we had to
separate the 4addr support from the AP/VLAN iftype but doing so could
lead to backward compatibility issues. I have the code which separates
the 4addr functionality from AP/VLAN but the bigger problem is the
backward compatibility.
I am hoping that now I have set the context correctly :)
>> Since I am completely moving the 4-addr handling to the new type,
>> older
>> applications which do not understand this new type will simply fail
>> and
>> 4-addr mode will be completely broken.
>>
>> Currently, whenever a 4-addr client attempts a connection, hostapd
>> just
>> creates a AP/VLAN interface and moves the 4-addr client to the AP/VLAN
>> iface; there are no other checks. I had no other option other than
>> going
>> with a new iftype for 4-addr handling.
>>
>> Is there a way we can maintain backward compatibility with this
>> approach? Retaining the 4-addr handling in AP/VLAN and duplicating the
>> same functionality to the new iftype seems will work but I am not sure
>> if this is the right approach.
>
> I think we have to keep the 4-addr handling in AP_VLAN iftype either
> way, to not break existing hostapd. We could introduce a separate
> AP_VLAN_NO_4ADDR and then require updating hostapd to get non-4addr
> VLAN, but that also seems awkward.
>
> Since hostapd doesn't currently check anything...
>
> Ok, no, I'm confused now. If we just clear WIPHY_FLAG_4ADDR_AP, don't
> we
> get what we want? 4-addr AP_VLAN interfaces would no longer be
> permitted
> to be created?
As I explained above, the agenda is to provide the driver (in this case,
ath10k) a better control for advertising the device capabilities; only
few ath10k chips can support VLAN functionality but all of them can
support 4 addr operation.
Manikanta
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-24 5:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-20 13:57 [PATCH] ath10k: add dynamic vlan support Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-04-20 13:57 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-04-23 19:18 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-04-23 19:18 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-05-18 9:53 ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-18 9:53 ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-18 10:40 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-05-18 10:40 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-04-24 8:09 ` Kalle Valo
2018-04-24 8:09 ` Kalle Valo
2018-04-24 9:09 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-04-24 9:09 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-04-24 9:18 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-04-24 9:18 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-04-24 9:52 ` Kalle Valo
2018-04-24 9:52 ` Kalle Valo
2018-04-24 9:55 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-04-24 9:55 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-05-04 6:50 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-05-04 6:50 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-05-05 9:50 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-05-05 9:50 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-05-18 9:54 ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-18 9:54 ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-18 10:52 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-05-18 10:52 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-05-21 6:42 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-05-21 6:42 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-05-23 9:50 ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-23 9:50 ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-23 10:39 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-05-23 10:39 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-05-23 10:39 ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-23 10:39 ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-23 10:50 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-05-23 10:50 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-05-24 4:41 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-05-24 4:41 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2018-06-18 20:49 ` Johannes Berg
2018-06-18 20:49 ` Johannes Berg
2018-08-14 12:53 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-08-14 12:53 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-08-16 8:27 ` Johannes Berg
2018-08-16 8:27 ` Johannes Berg
2018-08-24 5:50 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty [this message]
2018-08-24 5:50 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-09-03 10:39 ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03 10:39 ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-05 6:03 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
2018-09-05 6:03 ` Manikanta Pubbisetty
[not found] ` <15ca06c2-0d43-99c1-8f31-19e73629ab70@codeaurora.org>
2018-08-24 8:14 ` Kalle Valo
2018-08-24 8:14 ` Kalle Valo
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