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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Oleksii Kurochko <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
Cc: "Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	"Bob Eshleman" <bobbyeshleman@gmail.com>,
	"Connor Davis" <connojdavis@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
	"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 03/14] xen/riscv: introduce ioremap()
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 17:13:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84089b6d-efeb-4613-85b9-eb10d11d7338@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6d91eeabe2735de93bfcf2a2420e2059a8f35e52.1744126720.git.oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>

On 08.04.2025 17:57, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
> Based on RISC-V unpriviliged spec ( Version 20240411 ):
> ```
> For implementations that conform to the RISC-V Unix Platform Specification,
> I/O devices and DMA operations are required to access memory coherently and
> via strongly ordered I/O channels. Therefore, accesses to regular main memory
> regions that are concurrently accessed by external devices can also use the
> standard synchronization mechanisms. Implementations that do not conform
> to the Unix Platform Specification and/or in which devices do not access
> memory coherently will need to use mechanisms
> (which are currently platform-specific or device-specific) to enforce
> coherency.
> 
> I/O regions in the address space should be considered non-cacheable
> regions in the PMAs for those regions. Such regions can be considered coherent
> by the PMA if they are not cached by any agent.
> ```
> and [1]:
> ```
> The current riscv linux implementation requires SOC system to support
> memory coherence between all I/O devices and CPUs. But some SOC systems
> cannot maintain the coherence and they need support cache clean/invalid
> operations to synchronize data.
> 
> Current implementation is no problem with SiFive FU540, because FU540
> keeps all IO devices and DMA master devices coherence with CPU. But to a
> traditional SOC vendor, it may already have a stable non-coherency SOC
> system, the need is simply to replace the CPU with RV CPU and rebuild
> the whole system with IO-coherency is very expensive.
> ```
> 
> and the fact that all known ( to me ) CPUs that support the H-extension
> and that ones is going to be supported by Xen have memory coherency
> between all I/O devices and CPUs, so it is currently safe to use the
> PAGE_HYPERVISOR attribute.
> However, in cases where a platform does not support memory coherency, it
> should support CMO extensions and Svpbmt. In this scenario, updates to
> ioremap will be necessary.
> For now, a compilation error will be generated to ensure that the need to
> update ioremap() is not overlooked.
> 
> [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-riscv/patch/1555947870-23014-1-git-send-email-guoren@kernel.org/

But MMIO access correctness isn't just a matter of coherency. There may not
be any caching involved in most cases, or else you may observe significantly
delayed or even dropped (folded with later ones) writes, and reads may be
serviced from the cache instead of going to actual MMIO. Therefore ...

> --- a/xen/arch/riscv/Kconfig
> +++ b/xen/arch/riscv/Kconfig
> @@ -15,6 +15,18 @@ config ARCH_DEFCONFIG
>  	string
>  	default "arch/riscv/configs/tiny64_defconfig"
>  
> +config HAS_SVPBMT
> +	bool
> +	help
> +	  This config enables usage of Svpbmt ISA-extension ( Supervisor-mode:
> +	  page-based memory types).
> +
> +	  The memory type for a page contains a combination of attributes
> +	  that indicate the cacheability, idempotency, and ordering
> +	  properties for access to that page.
> +
> +	  The Svpbmt extension is only available on 64-bit cpus.

... I kind of expect this extension (or anything else that there might be) will need
making use of.

> @@ -548,3 +549,21 @@ void clear_fixmap(unsigned int map)
>                                FIXMAP_ADDR(map) + PAGE_SIZE) != 0 )
>          BUG();
>  }
> +
> +void *ioremap(paddr_t pa, size_t len)
> +{
> +    mfn_t mfn = _mfn(PFN_DOWN(pa));
> +    unsigned int offs = pa & (PAGE_SIZE - 1);
> +    unsigned int nr = PFN_UP(offs + len);
> +
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAS_SVPBMT
> +    #error "an introduction of PAGE_HYPERVISOR_IOREMAP is needed for __vmap()"
> +#endif

While, as per above, I don't think this can stay, just in case: As indicated
earlier, pre-processor directives want to have the # in the first column.

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-10 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-08 15:57 [PATCH v1 00/14] riscv: introduce basic UART support and interrupts for hypervisor mode Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 01/14] xen/riscv: implement get_s_time() Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-10 12:52   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-14 14:50     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 02/14] xen/riscv: introduce smp_clear_cpu_maps() Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-10 13:10   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-14 15:05     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-14 15:13       ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 03/14] xen/riscv: introduce ioremap() Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-10 15:13   ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2025-04-15 10:29     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 11:02       ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-17 14:20         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-17 14:24           ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-17 14:37             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-17 14:49               ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-22  8:40                 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-22  9:14                   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-24 13:30                     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 04/14] xen/riscv: introduce init_IRQ() Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-10 15:25   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-15 10:36     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] xen/riscv: introduce platform_get_irq() Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-10 15:35   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-15 11:11     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 11:23       ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-17 14:43         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] xen/riscv: riscv_of_processor_hartid() implementation Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-10 15:53   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-15 13:39     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 13:45       ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-25 17:07         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-28  6:31           ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-28 10:43             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-28 11:09               ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] xen/riscv: Introduce intc_hw_operations abstraction Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-10 16:02   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-15 15:01     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] xen/riscv: imsic_init() implementation Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-14  9:32   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-15 19:11     ` Oleksii Kurochko
     [not found]       ` <9a13c625-cd33-485d-a91f-9f005522b5a4@suse.com>
2025-04-23 11:44         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-29  8:24         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] xen/riscv: aplic_init() implementation Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-14 10:04   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-16 10:15     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-16 10:30       ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-17 15:21         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-17 15:30           ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-18 11:31             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] xen/riscv: implementation of aplic and imsic operations Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 12:46   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-16 19:05     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-17  6:25       ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-28  8:12         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-28  8:54           ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-30 16:07             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 14:53   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-18 10:43     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-22  7:02       ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-25 19:31         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-28  6:35           ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] xen/riscv: add external interrupt handling for hypervisor mode Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 14:42   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-17  8:44     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-17  9:13       ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] xen/riscv: implement setup_irq() Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 15:55   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-17 10:10     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-17 11:51       ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] xen/riscv: initialize interrupt controller Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 15:59   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-17 10:11     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-30 15:34       ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-30 15:39         ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] xen/riscv: add basic UART support Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-15 16:03   ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-17 10:31     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2025-04-17 11:52       ` Jan Beulich

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