From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Rick P. Edgecombe" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Szabolcs Nagy <Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 13/39] KVM: arm64: Manage GCS registers for guests
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:28:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ttgx2jba.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zo7B_sRyUyxv7xmO@finisterre.sirena.org.uk>
On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:16:46 +0100,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> [1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 04:17:02PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > > + if (ctxt_has_gcs(ctxt)) {
>
> > Since this is conditioned on S1PIE, it should be only be evaluated
> > when PIE is enabled in the guest.
>
> So make ctxt_has_gcs() embed a check of ctxt_has_s1pie()?
No. I mean nest the whole thing *under* the check for S1PIE.
>
> > > + ctxt_sys_reg(ctxt, GCSPR_EL1) = read_sysreg_el1(SYS_GCSPR);
> > > + ctxt_sys_reg(ctxt, GCSCR_EL1) = read_sysreg_el1(SYS_GCSCR);
> > > + ctxt_sys_reg(ctxt, GCSCRE0_EL1) = read_sysreg_s(SYS_GCSCRE0_EL1);
>
> > Why is this part of the EL1 context? It clearly only matters to EL0
> > execution, so it could be switched in load/put on nVHE as well. And
> > actually, given that the whole thing is strictly for userspace, why do
> > we switch *anything* eagerly at all?
>
> GCS can also be used independently at EL1 (and EL2 for that matter),
> it's not purely for userspace even though this series only implements
> use in userspace. GCSPR_EL1 and GCSCR_EL1 control the use of GCS at
> EL1, not EL0, and the guest might be using GCS at EL1 even if the host
> doesn't.
>
> GCSCRE0_EL1 is for EL0 though, it ended up here mainly because it's an
> _EL1 register and we are already context switching PIRE0_EL1 in the EL1
> functions so it seemed consistent to follow the same approach for GCS.
> The _el1 and _user save/restore functions are called from the same place
> for both VHE and nVHE so the practical impact of the placement should be
> minimal AFAICT. Unlike PIRE0_EL1 GCSCRE0_EL1 only has an impact for
> code runnning at EL0 so I can move it to the _user functions.
Exactly. That's where it belongs, because we never execute EL0 while a
vcpu is loaded. On the contrary, we can make use of a uaccess helper
while a vcpu is loaded, and that makes a hell of a difference.
And it makes a difference because it would allow the loading of
EL0-specific context differently. We had this at some point, and it
was a reasonable optimisation that we lost. I'm keen on bringing it
back.
>
> TBH I'm not following your comments about switching eagerly too here at
> all, where would you expect to see the switching done? You've said
> something along these lines before which prompted me to send a patch to
> only save the S1PIE registers if they'd been written to which you were
> quite reasonably not happy with given the extra traps it would cause:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240301-kvm-arm64-defer-regs-v1-1-401e3de92e97@kernel.org
>
> but I'm at a loss as to how to make things less eager otherwise.
>
> > > @@ -2306,7 +2323,8 @@ static const struct sys_reg_desc sys_reg_descs[] = {
> > > ID_AA64PFR0_EL1_GIC |
> > > ID_AA64PFR0_EL1_AdvSIMD |
> > > ID_AA64PFR0_EL1_FP), },
> > > - ID_SANITISED(ID_AA64PFR1_EL1),
> > > + ID_WRITABLE(ID_AA64PFR1_EL1, ~(ID_AA64PFR1_EL1_RES0 |
> > > + ID_AA64PFR1_EL1_BT)),
>
> > I don't know what you're trying to do here, but that's not right. If
> > you want to make this register writable, here's the shopping list:
>
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/87ikxsi0v9.wl-maz@kernel.org/
>
> Yes, trying to make things writable. I do see we need to exclude more
> bits there and I'm not clear why I excluded BTI, looks like I forgot to
> add a TODO comment at some point and finish that off. Sorry about that.
>
> In the linked mail you say you want to see all fields explicitly
> handled, could you be more direct about what such explicit handling
This emails enumerate, point after point, everything that needs to be
done. I really cannot be clearer or more direct. This email is the
clearer I can be, short of writing the code myself. And I have decided
not to do it for once, unless I really need to. And as it turns out, I
don't.
> would look like? I see a number of examples in the existing code like:
>
> ID_WRITABLE(ID_AA64ZFR0_EL1, ~ID_AA64ZFR0_EL1_RES0),
This is clear: Everything is writable, and there are no bits here that
are otherwise conditional or unsupported.
>
> ID_WRITABLE(ID_AA64ISAR0_EL1, ~ID_AA64ISAR0_EL1_RES0),
Same thing.
> ID_WRITABLE(ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1, ~(ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1_GPI |
> ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1_GPA |
> ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1_API |
> ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1_APA)),
This one needs fixing because of LS64, and I have an in-progress
series for it.
> which look to my eye very similar to the above, they do not visibliy
> explictly enumerate every field in the registers and given that there's
> a single mask specified it's not clear how that would look. If
> ID_WRITABLE() took separate read/write masks and combined them it'd be
> more obvious but it's just not written that way.
I don't really see what it would buy us, but never mind.
M.
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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Rick P. Edgecombe" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Szabolcs Nagy <Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com>,
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>, "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>,
Ross Burton <ross.burton@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 13/39] KVM: arm64: Manage GCS registers for guests
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:28:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ttgx2jba.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zo7B_sRyUyxv7xmO@finisterre.sirena.org.uk>
On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:16:46 +0100,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> [1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 04:17:02PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > > + if (ctxt_has_gcs(ctxt)) {
>
> > Since this is conditioned on S1PIE, it should be only be evaluated
> > when PIE is enabled in the guest.
>
> So make ctxt_has_gcs() embed a check of ctxt_has_s1pie()?
No. I mean nest the whole thing *under* the check for S1PIE.
>
> > > + ctxt_sys_reg(ctxt, GCSPR_EL1) = read_sysreg_el1(SYS_GCSPR);
> > > + ctxt_sys_reg(ctxt, GCSCR_EL1) = read_sysreg_el1(SYS_GCSCR);
> > > + ctxt_sys_reg(ctxt, GCSCRE0_EL1) = read_sysreg_s(SYS_GCSCRE0_EL1);
>
> > Why is this part of the EL1 context? It clearly only matters to EL0
> > execution, so it could be switched in load/put on nVHE as well. And
> > actually, given that the whole thing is strictly for userspace, why do
> > we switch *anything* eagerly at all?
>
> GCS can also be used independently at EL1 (and EL2 for that matter),
> it's not purely for userspace even though this series only implements
> use in userspace. GCSPR_EL1 and GCSCR_EL1 control the use of GCS at
> EL1, not EL0, and the guest might be using GCS at EL1 even if the host
> doesn't.
>
> GCSCRE0_EL1 is for EL0 though, it ended up here mainly because it's an
> _EL1 register and we are already context switching PIRE0_EL1 in the EL1
> functions so it seemed consistent to follow the same approach for GCS.
> The _el1 and _user save/restore functions are called from the same place
> for both VHE and nVHE so the practical impact of the placement should be
> minimal AFAICT. Unlike PIRE0_EL1 GCSCRE0_EL1 only has an impact for
> code runnning at EL0 so I can move it to the _user functions.
Exactly. That's where it belongs, because we never execute EL0 while a
vcpu is loaded. On the contrary, we can make use of a uaccess helper
while a vcpu is loaded, and that makes a hell of a difference.
And it makes a difference because it would allow the loading of
EL0-specific context differently. We had this at some point, and it
was a reasonable optimisation that we lost. I'm keen on bringing it
back.
>
> TBH I'm not following your comments about switching eagerly too here at
> all, where would you expect to see the switching done? You've said
> something along these lines before which prompted me to send a patch to
> only save the S1PIE registers if they'd been written to which you were
> quite reasonably not happy with given the extra traps it would cause:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240301-kvm-arm64-defer-regs-v1-1-401e3de92e97@kernel.org
>
> but I'm at a loss as to how to make things less eager otherwise.
>
> > > @@ -2306,7 +2323,8 @@ static const struct sys_reg_desc sys_reg_descs[] = {
> > > ID_AA64PFR0_EL1_GIC |
> > > ID_AA64PFR0_EL1_AdvSIMD |
> > > ID_AA64PFR0_EL1_FP), },
> > > - ID_SANITISED(ID_AA64PFR1_EL1),
> > > + ID_WRITABLE(ID_AA64PFR1_EL1, ~(ID_AA64PFR1_EL1_RES0 |
> > > + ID_AA64PFR1_EL1_BT)),
>
> > I don't know what you're trying to do here, but that's not right. If
> > you want to make this register writable, here's the shopping list:
>
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/87ikxsi0v9.wl-maz@kernel.org/
>
> Yes, trying to make things writable. I do see we need to exclude more
> bits there and I'm not clear why I excluded BTI, looks like I forgot to
> add a TODO comment at some point and finish that off. Sorry about that.
>
> In the linked mail you say you want to see all fields explicitly
> handled, could you be more direct about what such explicit handling
This emails enumerate, point after point, everything that needs to be
done. I really cannot be clearer or more direct. This email is the
clearer I can be, short of writing the code myself. And I have decided
not to do it for once, unless I really need to. And as it turns out, I
don't.
> would look like? I see a number of examples in the existing code like:
>
> ID_WRITABLE(ID_AA64ZFR0_EL1, ~ID_AA64ZFR0_EL1_RES0),
This is clear: Everything is writable, and there are no bits here that
are otherwise conditional or unsupported.
>
> ID_WRITABLE(ID_AA64ISAR0_EL1, ~ID_AA64ISAR0_EL1_RES0),
Same thing.
> ID_WRITABLE(ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1, ~(ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1_GPI |
> ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1_GPA |
> ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1_API |
> ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1_APA)),
This one needs fixing because of LS64, and I have an in-progress
series for it.
> which look to my eye very similar to the above, they do not visibliy
> explictly enumerate every field in the registers and given that there's
> a single mask specified it's not clear how that would look. If
> ID_WRITABLE() took separate read/write masks and combined them it'd be
> more obvious but it's just not written that way.
I don't really see what it would buy us, but never mind.
M.
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2024-06-25 14:57 [PATCH v9 00/39] arm64/gcs: Provide support for GCS in userspace Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 01/39] arm64/mm: Restructure arch_validate_flags() for extensibility Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 02/39] prctl: arch-agnostic prctl for shadow stack Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 03/39] mman: Add map_shadow_stack() flags Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 04/39] arm64: Document boot requirements for Guarded Control Stacks Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 05/39] arm64/gcs: Document the ABI " Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 22:51 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-06-25 22:51 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-07-10 10:36 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-10 10:36 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-10 18:27 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-10 18:27 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-16 18:50 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-07-16 18:50 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-07-17 15:28 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-17 15:28 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-17 1:21 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-17 1:21 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 06/39] arm64/sysreg: Add definitions for architected GCS caps Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 07/39] arm64/gcs: Add manual encodings of GCS instructions Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 08/39] arm64/gcs: Provide put_user_gcs() Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 09/39] arm64/cpufeature: Runtime detection of Guarded Control Stack (GCS) Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 10/39] arm64/mm: Allocate PIE slots for EL0 guarded control stack Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 11/39] mm: Define VM_SHADOW_STACK for arm64 when we support GCS Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 12/39] arm64/mm: Map pages for guarded control stack Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 13/39] KVM: arm64: Manage GCS registers for guests Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-10 15:17 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-07-10 15:17 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-07-10 17:16 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-10 17:16 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-10 18:28 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2024-07-10 18:28 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-07-10 22:05 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-10 22:05 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 14/39] arm64/gcs: Allow GCS usage at EL0 and EL1 Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 15/39] arm64/idreg: Add overrride for GCS Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 16/39] arm64/hwcap: Add hwcap " Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 17/39] arm64/traps: Handle GCS exceptions Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 18/39] arm64/mm: Handle GCS data aborts Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 19/39] arm64/gcs: Context switch GCS state for EL0 Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 20/39] arm64/gcs: Ensure that new threads have a GCS Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-17 2:05 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-17 2:05 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 21/39] arm64/gcs: Implement shadow stack prctl() interface Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 22/39] arm64/mm: Implement map_shadow_stack() Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 23/39] arm64/signal: Set up and restore the GCS context for signal handlers Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 24/39] arm64/signal: Expose GCS state in signal frames Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 25/39] arm64/ptrace: Expose GCS via ptrace and core files Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 26/39] arm64: Add Kconfig for Guarded Control Stack (GCS) Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 27/39] kselftest/arm64: Verify the GCS hwcap Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 28/39] kselftest: Provide shadow stack enable helpers for arm64 Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 29/39] selftests/clone3: Enable arm64 shadow stack testing Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 30/39] kselftest/arm64: Add GCS as a detected feature in the signal tests Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` [PATCH v9 31/39] kselftest/arm64: Add framework support for GCS to signal handling tests Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v9 32/39] kselftest/arm64: Allow signals tests to specify an expected si_code Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v9 33/39] kselftest/arm64: Always run signals tests with GCS enabled Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v9 34/39] kselftest/arm64: Add very basic GCS test program Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v9 35/39] kselftest/arm64: Add a GCS test program built with the system libc Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-18 16:14 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-18 16:14 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-18 16:16 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-18 16:16 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-18 22:28 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-18 22:28 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-22 8:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-22 8:57 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v9 36/39] kselftest/arm64: Add test coverage for GCS mode locking Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v9 37/39] kselftest/arm64: Add GCS signal tests Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-18 23:03 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-18 23:03 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-06-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v9 38/39] kselftest/arm64: Add a GCS stress test Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-18 23:34 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-18 23:34 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-18 23:47 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-18 23:47 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-07-22 10:08 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-22 10:08 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-22 14:31 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-22 14:31 ` Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v9 39/39] kselftest/arm64: Enable GCS for the FP stress tests Mark Brown
2024-06-25 14:58 ` Mark Brown
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