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From: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	 Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	 Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	 linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,  bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	 Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@google.com>,
	 Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,  Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 01/14] mm: introduce bpf struct ops for OOM handling
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2025 16:52:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pnfk2px.fsf@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzafXv-PstSAP6krers=S74ri1+zTB4Y2oT6f+33yznqsA@mail.gmail.com> (Andrii Nakryiko's message of "Mon, 6 Oct 2025 16:21:24 -0700")

Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 7:01 PM Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev> writes:
>>
>> > On 9/2/25 10:31 AM, Roman Gushchin wrote:
>> >> Btw, what's the right way to attach struct ops to a cgroup, if there is
>> >> one? Add a cgroup_id field to the struct and use it in the .reg()
>> >
>> > Adding a cgroup id/fd field to the struct bpf_oom_ops will be hard to
>> > attach the same bpf_oom_ops to multiple cgroups.
>> >
>> >> callback? Or there is something better?
>> >
>> > There is a link_create.target_fd in the "union bpf_attr". The
>> > cgroup_bpf_link_attach() is using it as cgroup fd. May be it can be
>> > used here also. This will limit it to link attach only. Meaning the
>> > SEC(".struct_ops.link") is supported but not the older
>> > SEC(".struct_ops"). I think this should be fine.
>>
>> I thought a bit more about it (sorry for the delay):
>> if we want to be able to attach a single struct ops to multiple cgroups
>> (and potentially other objects, e.g. sockets), we can't really
>> use the existing struct ops's bpf_link.
>>
>> So I guess we need to add a new .attach() function beside .reg()
>> which will take the existing link and struct bpf_attr as arguments and
>> return a new bpf_link. And in libbpf we need a corresponding new
>> bpf_link__attach_cgroup().
>>
>> Does it sound right?
>>
>
> Not really, but I also might be missing some details (I haven't read
> the entire thread).
>
> But conceptually, what you describe is not how things work w.r.t. BPF
> links and attachment.
>
> You don't attach a link to some hook (e.g., cgroup). You attach either
> BPF program or (as in this case) BPF struct_ops map to a hook (i.e.,
> cgroup), and get back the BPF link. That BPF link describes that one
> attachment of prog/struct_ops to that hook. Each attachment gets its
> own BPF link FD.
>
> So, there cannot be bpf_link__attach_cgroup(), but there can be (at
> least conceptually) bpf_map__attach_cgroup(), where map is struct_ops
> map.

I see...
So basically when a struct ops map is created we have a fd and then
we can attach it (theoretically multiple times) using BPF_LINK_CREATE.

>
> Having said that, we do have bpf_map__attach_struct_ops() already
> (it's using BPF_LINK_CREATE command under the hood), and so perhaps
> the right way is to have bpf_map__attach_struct_ops_opts() API, which
> will accept optional extra attachment parameters which will be passed
> into bpf_attr.link_create.struct_ops section of UAPI. That thing can
> have target FD, where FD is cgroup/task/whatever we need to specify
> attachment target. Just like we do that for BPF program's
> BPF_LINK_CREATE, really.

Yes, this sounds good to me!

Thanks you for the clarification.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-06 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-18 17:01 [PATCH v1 00/14] mm: BPF OOM Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 01/14] mm: introduce bpf struct ops for OOM handling Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19  4:09   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:06     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 19:34       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-20 19:52         ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:01           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 16:23         ` Amery Hung
2025-08-20 11:28   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-21  0:24     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-21  0:36       ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-21  2:22         ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-21 15:54           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-22 19:27       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-25 17:00         ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-26 18:01           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-26 19:52             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-08-27 18:28               ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-02 17:31               ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-02 22:30                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-09-02 23:36                   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-04  2:00                   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-06 23:21                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-10-06 23:52                       ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2025-10-06 23:57                         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-10-07  0:41                           ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-08  1:07                             ` Song Liu
2025-10-08  2:15                               ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-08  7:03                                 ` Song Liu
2025-10-08 17:02                                   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-07  2:25                     ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-09-03  0:29                 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-03 23:30                   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-04  6:39                     ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-04 14:32                       ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-04 16:26                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-04 16:58                           ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-26 16:56   ` Amery Hung
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 02/14] bpf: mark struct oom_control's memcg field as TRUSTED_OR_NULL Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20  9:17   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:32     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 03/14] mm: introduce bpf_oom_kill_process() bpf kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 04/14] mm: introduce bpf kfuncs to deal with memcg pointers Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20  9:21   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:43     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 23:33       ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] mm: introduce bpf_get_root_mem_cgroup() bpf kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20  9:25   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:45     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] mm: introduce bpf_out_of_memory() " Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19  4:09   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:16     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20  9:34   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:59     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] mm: allow specifying custom oom constraint for bpf triggers Roman Gushchin
2025-10-02 16:37   ` ChaosEsque Team
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] mm: introduce bpf_task_is_oom_victim() kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] bpf: selftests: introduce read_cgroup_file() helper Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] bpf: selftests: bpf OOM handler test Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20  9:33   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:49     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:23   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-21  0:10     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] sched: psi: refactor psi_trigger_create() Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19  4:09   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:28     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] sched: psi: implement psi trigger handling using bpf Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19  4:11   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 22:31     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 23:31       ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 23:56         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 17:03   ` Amery Hung
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] sched: psi: implement bpf_psi_create_trigger() kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:30   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-21  0:36     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-22 19:13       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-22 19:57       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-25 16:56         ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] bpf: selftests: psi struct ops test Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19  4:08 ` [PATCH v1 00/14] mm: BPF OOM Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 19:52   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 21:06 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-21  0:01   ` Roman Gushchin

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