From: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@google.com>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 01/14] mm: introduce bpf struct ops for OOM handling
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2025 17:41:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tt0bfsq7.fsf@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzaVvNwt18eqVpigKh8Ftm=KfO_EsB2Hoh+LQCDLsWxRwg@mail.gmail.com> (Andrii Nakryiko's message of "Mon, 6 Oct 2025 16:57:22 -0700")
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 4:52 PM Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 7:01 PM Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > On 9/2/25 10:31 AM, Roman Gushchin wrote:
>> >> >> Btw, what's the right way to attach struct ops to a cgroup, if there is
>> >> >> one? Add a cgroup_id field to the struct and use it in the .reg()
>> >> >
>> >> > Adding a cgroup id/fd field to the struct bpf_oom_ops will be hard to
>> >> > attach the same bpf_oom_ops to multiple cgroups.
>> >> >
>> >> >> callback? Or there is something better?
>> >> >
>> >> > There is a link_create.target_fd in the "union bpf_attr". The
>> >> > cgroup_bpf_link_attach() is using it as cgroup fd. May be it can be
>> >> > used here also. This will limit it to link attach only. Meaning the
>> >> > SEC(".struct_ops.link") is supported but not the older
>> >> > SEC(".struct_ops"). I think this should be fine.
>> >>
>> >> I thought a bit more about it (sorry for the delay):
>> >> if we want to be able to attach a single struct ops to multiple cgroups
>> >> (and potentially other objects, e.g. sockets), we can't really
>> >> use the existing struct ops's bpf_link.
>> >>
>> >> So I guess we need to add a new .attach() function beside .reg()
>> >> which will take the existing link and struct bpf_attr as arguments and
>> >> return a new bpf_link. And in libbpf we need a corresponding new
>> >> bpf_link__attach_cgroup().
>> >>
>> >> Does it sound right?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Not really, but I also might be missing some details (I haven't read
>> > the entire thread).
>> >
>> > But conceptually, what you describe is not how things work w.r.t. BPF
>> > links and attachment.
>> >
>> > You don't attach a link to some hook (e.g., cgroup). You attach either
>> > BPF program or (as in this case) BPF struct_ops map to a hook (i.e.,
>> > cgroup), and get back the BPF link. That BPF link describes that one
>> > attachment of prog/struct_ops to that hook. Each attachment gets its
>> > own BPF link FD.
>> >
>> > So, there cannot be bpf_link__attach_cgroup(), but there can be (at
>> > least conceptually) bpf_map__attach_cgroup(), where map is struct_ops
>> > map.
>>
>> I see...
>> So basically when a struct ops map is created we have a fd and then
>> we can attach it (theoretically multiple times) using BPF_LINK_CREATE.
>
> Yes, exactly. "theoretically" part is true right now because of how
> things are wired up internally, but this must be fixable
Ok, one more question: do you think it's better to alter the existing
bpf_struct_ops.reg() callback and add the bpf_attr parameter
or add the new .attach() callback?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-07 0:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-18 17:01 [PATCH v1 00/14] mm: BPF OOM Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 01/14] mm: introduce bpf struct ops for OOM handling Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:06 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 19:34 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-20 19:52 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:01 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 16:23 ` Amery Hung
2025-08-20 11:28 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-21 0:24 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-21 0:36 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-21 2:22 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-21 15:54 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-22 19:27 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-25 17:00 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-26 18:01 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-26 19:52 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-08-27 18:28 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-02 17:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-02 22:30 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-09-02 23:36 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-04 2:00 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-06 23:21 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-10-06 23:52 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-06 23:57 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-10-07 0:41 ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2025-10-08 1:07 ` Song Liu
2025-10-08 2:15 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-08 7:03 ` Song Liu
2025-10-08 17:02 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-07 2:25 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-09-03 0:29 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-03 23:30 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-04 6:39 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-04 14:32 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-04 16:26 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-04 16:58 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-26 16:56 ` Amery Hung
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 02/14] bpf: mark struct oom_control's memcg field as TRUSTED_OR_NULL Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:17 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:32 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 03/14] mm: introduce bpf_oom_kill_process() bpf kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 04/14] mm: introduce bpf kfuncs to deal with memcg pointers Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:21 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:43 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 23:33 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] mm: introduce bpf_get_root_mem_cgroup() bpf kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:25 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:45 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] mm: introduce bpf_out_of_memory() " Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:16 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:34 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:59 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] mm: allow specifying custom oom constraint for bpf triggers Roman Gushchin
2025-10-02 16:37 ` ChaosEsque Team
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] mm: introduce bpf_task_is_oom_victim() kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] bpf: selftests: introduce read_cgroup_file() helper Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] bpf: selftests: bpf OOM handler test Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:33 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:49 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:23 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-21 0:10 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] sched: psi: refactor psi_trigger_create() Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:28 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] sched: psi: implement psi trigger handling using bpf Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 22:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 23:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 23:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 17:03 ` Amery Hung
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] sched: psi: implement bpf_psi_create_trigger() kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:30 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-21 0:36 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-22 19:13 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-22 19:57 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-25 16:56 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] bpf: selftests: psi struct ops test Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:08 ` [PATCH v1 00/14] mm: BPF OOM Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 19:52 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 21:06 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-21 0:01 ` Roman Gushchin
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