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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Celeste Liu" <coelacanthushex@gmail.com>,
	"Celeste Liu via B4 Relay"
	<devnull+CoelacanthusHex.gmail.com@kernel.org>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@rivosinc.com>
Cc: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	"Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@strace.io>,
	Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>,
	Felix Yan <felixonmars@archlinux.org>,
	Ruizhe Pan <c141028@gmail.com>,
	Shiqi Zhang <shiqi@isrc.iscas.ac.cn>, Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	Yao Zi <ziyao@disroot.org>, Han Gao <gaohan@iscas.ac.cn>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv/entry: get correct syscall number from syscall_get_nr()
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:12:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871q045ntd.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8734kpqu8k.fsf@all.your.base.are.belong.to.us>

On Mon, Oct 21 2024 at 09:46, Björn Töpel wrote:
> Celeste Liu <coelacanthushex@gmail.com> writes:
>> 1. syscall_enter_from_user_mode() will do two things:
>>    1) the return value is only to inform whether the syscall should be skipped.
>>    2) regs will be modified by filters (seccomp or ptrace and so on).
>> 2. for common entry user, there is two informations: syscall number and
>>    the return value of syscall_enter_from_user_mode() (called is_skipped below).
>>    so there is three situations:
>>    1) if syscall number is invalid, the syscall should not be performed, and
>>       we set a0 to -ENOSYS to inform userspace the syscall doesn't exist.
>>    2) if syscall number is valid, is_skipped will be used:
>>       a) if is_skipped is -1, which means there are some filters reject this syscall,
>>          so the syscall should not performed. (Of course, we can use bool instead to
>>          get better semantic)
>>       b) if is_skipped != -1, which means the filters approved this syscall,
>>          so we invoke syscall handler with modified regs.
>>
>> In your design, the logical condition is not obvious. Why syscall_enter_from_user_mode()
>> informed the syscall will be skipped but the syscall handler will be called
>> when syscall number is invalid? The users need to think two things to get result:
>> a) -1 means skip
>> b) -1 < 0 in signed integer, so the skip condition is always a invalid syscall number.
>>
>> In may way, the users only need to think one thing: The syscall_enter_from_user_mode()
>> said -1 means the syscall should not be performed, so use it as a condition of reject
>> directly. They just need to combine the informations that they get from API as the
>> condition of control flow.
>
> I'm all-in for simpler API usage! Maybe massage the
> syscall_enter_from_user_mode() (or a new one), so that additional
> syscall_get_nr() call is not needed?

It's completely unclear to me what the actual problem is. The flow how
this works on all architectures is:

       regs->orig_a0  = regs->a0
       regs->a0 = -ENOSYS;

       nr = syscall_enter_from_user_mode(....);

       if (nr >= 0)
          regs->a0 = nr < MAX_SYSCALL ? syscall(nr) : -ENOSYS;
                     
If syscall_trace_enter() returns -1 to skip the syscall, then regs->a0
is unmodified, unless one of the magic operations modified it.

If syscall_trace_enter() was not active (no tracer, no seccomp ...) then
regs->a0 already contains -ENOSYS.

So what's the exact problem?

Thanks,

        tglx

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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Celeste Liu" <coelacanthushex@gmail.com>,
	"Celeste Liu via B4 Relay"
	<devnull+CoelacanthusHex.gmail.com@kernel.org>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@rivosinc.com>
Cc: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	"Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@strace.io>,
	Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>,
	Felix Yan <felixonmars@archlinux.org>,
	Ruizhe Pan <c141028@gmail.com>,
	Shiqi Zhang <shiqi@isrc.iscas.ac.cn>, Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	Yao Zi <ziyao@disroot.org>, Han Gao <gaohan@iscas.ac.cn>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv/entry: get correct syscall number from syscall_get_nr()
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:12:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871q045ntd.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8734kpqu8k.fsf@all.your.base.are.belong.to.us>

On Mon, Oct 21 2024 at 09:46, Björn Töpel wrote:
> Celeste Liu <coelacanthushex@gmail.com> writes:
>> 1. syscall_enter_from_user_mode() will do two things:
>>    1) the return value is only to inform whether the syscall should be skipped.
>>    2) regs will be modified by filters (seccomp or ptrace and so on).
>> 2. for common entry user, there is two informations: syscall number and
>>    the return value of syscall_enter_from_user_mode() (called is_skipped below).
>>    so there is three situations:
>>    1) if syscall number is invalid, the syscall should not be performed, and
>>       we set a0 to -ENOSYS to inform userspace the syscall doesn't exist.
>>    2) if syscall number is valid, is_skipped will be used:
>>       a) if is_skipped is -1, which means there are some filters reject this syscall,
>>          so the syscall should not performed. (Of course, we can use bool instead to
>>          get better semantic)
>>       b) if is_skipped != -1, which means the filters approved this syscall,
>>          so we invoke syscall handler with modified regs.
>>
>> In your design, the logical condition is not obvious. Why syscall_enter_from_user_mode()
>> informed the syscall will be skipped but the syscall handler will be called
>> when syscall number is invalid? The users need to think two things to get result:
>> a) -1 means skip
>> b) -1 < 0 in signed integer, so the skip condition is always a invalid syscall number.
>>
>> In may way, the users only need to think one thing: The syscall_enter_from_user_mode()
>> said -1 means the syscall should not be performed, so use it as a condition of reject
>> directly. They just need to combine the informations that they get from API as the
>> condition of control flow.
>
> I'm all-in for simpler API usage! Maybe massage the
> syscall_enter_from_user_mode() (or a new one), so that additional
> syscall_get_nr() call is not needed?

It's completely unclear to me what the actual problem is. The flow how
this works on all architectures is:

       regs->orig_a0  = regs->a0
       regs->a0 = -ENOSYS;

       nr = syscall_enter_from_user_mode(....);

       if (nr >= 0)
          regs->a0 = nr < MAX_SYSCALL ? syscall(nr) : -ENOSYS;
                     
If syscall_trace_enter() returns -1 to skip the syscall, then regs->a0
is unmodified, unless one of the magic operations modified it.

If syscall_trace_enter() was not active (no tracer, no seccomp ...) then
regs->a0 already contains -ENOSYS.

So what's the exact problem?

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-25 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-16 17:49 [PATCH] riscv/entry: get correct syscall number from syscall_get_nr() Celeste Liu
2024-10-16 17:49 ` Celeste Liu via B4 Relay
2024-10-16 17:49 ` Celeste Liu via B4 Relay
2024-10-16 17:51 ` kernel test robot
2024-10-21 14:00 ` Björn Töpel
2024-10-21 14:00   ` Björn Töpel
2024-10-21 15:23   ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-21 15:23     ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-21 16:46     ` Björn Töpel
2024-10-21 16:46       ` Björn Töpel
2024-10-25 13:12       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2024-10-25 13:12         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-25 14:30         ` Björn Töpel
2024-10-25 14:30           ` Björn Töpel
2024-10-26 20:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-26 20:21             ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-27 15:29             ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-27 15:29               ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-27 15:56               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-27 15:56                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-27 17:01                 ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-27 17:01                   ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-27 21:52                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-27 21:52                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-28  0:17                     ` Ron Economos
2024-10-28  0:17                       ` Ron Economos
2024-10-28 16:25                       ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-28 16:25                         ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-28 19:33                         ` Björn Töpel
2024-10-28 19:33                           ` Björn Töpel
2024-11-30 22:39                           ` Celeste Liu
2024-11-30 22:39                             ` Celeste Liu
2024-10-28  9:45             ` Björn Töpel
2024-10-28  9:45               ` Björn Töpel
2024-11-15 21:49               ` Aurelien Jarno
2024-11-15 21:49                 ` Aurelien Jarno

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