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From: Jared Rhine <jared@wordzoo.com>
To: xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [PATCH] xenctld - a control channel multiplexing daemon
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:52:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871xcag1f4.wl@badger.wordzoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501240957520.12186@bluesteel.lanl.gov>

[Ronald == rminnich@lanl.gov on Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:04:29 -0700 (MST)]

  Jared> Ron, is your performance concern because large clusters need
  Jared> to pass a very high volume of control messages?

  Ronald> re-reading this, however, I think my concerns about the
  Ronald> extra daemon shrink into insignificance when I think about
  Ronald> Python-based Xend ...

I think most people are agreed that a non-Python control
infrastructure will be developed in the not-so-distant future.  So
to the extent your concerns about multiple daemons apply in a
non-Python environment, they should be addressed.

  Ronald> The issue is that, in any large scale cluster, if you have
  Ronald> enough processes running besides your application on the
  Ronald> nodes, then the act of scheduling those processes -- even
  Ronald> for select calls that return instantly
  Ronald> -- can derange the application performance.

It may be that clustering people need a whole different toolset.  If
you were trying to minimize process count, then you probably wouldn't
even want xcs, a multiplexing switch anyway.  Indeed, why multiplex at
all?  You might use a single control mechanism, preferably combining
whatever subset of xcs, xensv, xm, etc you needed.

I'll leave it others to figure out what all this means for xcs's
future.

Thanks for your cluster scheduling overview; it was helpful.

-- jared@wordzoo.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-24 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-21 15:55 [PATCH] xenctld - a control channel multiplexing daemon Anthony Liguori
2005-01-21 16:39 ` Andrew Warfield
2005-01-21 17:19   ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-01-21 19:59     ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-21 20:44       ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-01-21 21:14         ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-21 20:54           ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-01-21 21:28             ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-21 21:37             ` Jared Rhine
2005-01-24 15:33               ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-01-24 16:35                 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-24 16:55                   ` Jared Rhine
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501240957520.12186@bluesteel.lanl.gov>
2005-01-24 17:52                       ` Jared Rhine [this message]
2005-01-24 19:11                         ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-24 19:07                     ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-24 20:44                       ` B.G. Bruce
2005-01-26  2:31                       ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-01-26  5:43                         ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-26  6:59                           ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-01-21 19:56   ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-26  0:21   ` Michael Hohnbaum
2005-01-26 14:33     ` Andrew Warfield
2005-01-26 19:31       ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-26 19:11         ` Andrew Warfield
2005-01-26 20:01           ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-26 21:21             ` Daniel Stekloff
2005-01-26 22:28               ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-26 21:57                 ` Daniel Stekloff
2005-01-26 21:49             ` Michael Hohnbaum
2005-01-26 22:57               ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-26 23:55                 ` Michael Hohnbaum
2005-01-26 23:59                 ` Daniel Stekloff
2005-01-27  7:05                   ` Tobias Hunger
2005-01-27 14:19                   ` Anthony Liguori
2005-01-27 18:05                     ` Daniel Stekloff
2005-01-28  9:17                       ` Steven Hand
2005-01-28 16:56                         ` Daniel Stekloff
2005-01-27  0:13                 ` Daniel Stekloff
2005-01-27  3:48                 ` Daniel Stekloff
2005-01-26 23:36       ` Daniel Stekloff

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