From: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jose.marchesi@oracle.com>
To: dthaler1968=40googlemail.com@dmarc.ietf.org
Cc: "'Yonghong Song'" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>, <bpf@ietf.org>,
<bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Bpf] ISA: BPF_MSH and deprecated packet access instructions
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 20:06:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734uitx3m.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cjutxe9.fsf@oracle.com> (Jose E. Marchesi's message of "Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:59:58 +0100")
> We do not support any load/sotre instruction with mode BPF_MSH in
> binutils. Should we do so? What are these?
>
>> Under "Load and store instructions", various mode modifiers are documented.
>> I notice that BPF_MSH (0xa0) is not documented, but appears to be in use in
>> various projects, including Linux, BSD, seccomp, etc. and is even documented
>> in various books such as
>> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Programming_Linux_Hacker_Tools_Uncovere
>> d/yqHVAwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22BPF_MSH%22&pg=PA129&printsec=frontcover
>>
>> Should we document it as deprecated and add it to the set of deprecated
>> instructions (the legacy conformance group) like BPF_ABS and BPF_IND
>> already are?
>>
>> Also, for purposes of the IANA registry of instructions where we list which
>> opcodes are "(deprecated, implementation-specific)", I currently list all
>> possible BPF_ABS and BPF_IND opcodes regardless of whether they were
>> ever used (I didn't check which were used and which might not have been),
>> so I could just list all possible BPF_MSH opcodes similarly. But if we know
>> that some were never used then I don't need to do so, so I guess I should
>> ask:
>> do we have a list of which combinations were actually used or should we
>> continue to just deprecate all combinations?
>>
>> As an example,
>> https://github.com/seccomp/libseccomp/blob/main/tools/scmp_bpf_disasm.c#L68
>> lists 6 variants of BPF_MSH: LD and LDX, for B, H, and W (but not DW).
>> Other sources like the book page referenced above, and the BSD man page,
>> list only BPF_LDX | BPF_B | BPF_MSH, which is in Linux sources such as
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.8-rc1/source/lib/test_bpf.c#L368
>>
>> So, should we list the DW variants as deprecated, or never assigned?
>> Should we list the H, W, and LD variants as deprecated, or never assigned?
>>
>> What about DW and LDX variants of BPF_IND and BPF_ABS?
These we support:
/* Absolute load instructions, designed to be used in socket filters. */
{BPF_INSN_LDABSB, "ldabsb%W%i32", "r0 = * ( u8 * ) skb [ %i32 ]",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LD|BPF_SIZE_B|BPF_MODE_ABS},
{BPF_INSN_LDABSH, "ldabsh%W%i32", "r0 = * ( u16 * ) skb [ %i32 ]",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LD|BPF_SIZE_H|BPF_MODE_ABS},
{BPF_INSN_LDABSW, "ldabsw%W%i32", "r0 = * ( u32 * ) skb [ %i32 ]",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LD|BPF_SIZE_W|BPF_MODE_ABS},
{BPF_INSN_LDABSDW, "ldabsdw%W%i32", "r0 = * ( u64 * ) skb [ %i32 ]",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LD|BPF_SIZE_DW|BPF_MODE_ABS},
/* Generic load instructions (to register.) */
{BPF_INSN_LDXB, "ldxb%W%dr , [ %sr %o16 ]", "%dr = * ( u8 * ) ( %sr %o16 )",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LDX|BPF_SIZE_B|BPF_MODE_MEM},
{BPF_INSN_LDXH, "ldxh%W%dr , [ %sr %o16 ]", "%dr = * ( u16 * ) ( %sr %o16 )",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LDX|BPF_SIZE_H|BPF_MODE_MEM},
{BPF_INSN_LDXW, "ldxw%W%dr , [ %sr %o16 ]", "%dr = * ( u32 * ) ( %sr %o16 )",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LDX|BPF_SIZE_W|BPF_MODE_MEM},
{BPF_INSN_LDXDW, "ldxdw%W%dr , [ %sr %o16 ]","%dr = * ( u64 * ) ( %sr %o16 )",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LDX|BPF_SIZE_DW|BPF_MODE_MEM},
>> Dave
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From: "Jose E. Marchesi" <jose.marchesi@oracle.com>
To: dthaler1968=40googlemail.com@dmarc.ietf.org
Cc: "'Yonghong Song'" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>, <bpf@ietf.org>,
<bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Bpf] ISA: BPF_MSH and deprecated packet access instructions
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 20:06:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734uitx3m.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20240127190621.WmM0zF59J62x8UFCFTUwS7DpDu3k7DdBETS7vbezLbU@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cjutxe9.fsf@oracle.com> (Jose E. Marchesi's message of "Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:59:58 +0100")
> We do not support any load/sotre instruction with mode BPF_MSH in
> binutils. Should we do so? What are these?
>
>> Under "Load and store instructions", various mode modifiers are documented.
>> I notice that BPF_MSH (0xa0) is not documented, but appears to be in use in
>> various projects, including Linux, BSD, seccomp, etc. and is even documented
>> in various books such as
>> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Programming_Linux_Hacker_Tools_Uncovere
>> d/yqHVAwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22BPF_MSH%22&pg=PA129&printsec=frontcover
>>
>> Should we document it as deprecated and add it to the set of deprecated
>> instructions (the legacy conformance group) like BPF_ABS and BPF_IND
>> already are?
>>
>> Also, for purposes of the IANA registry of instructions where we list which
>> opcodes are "(deprecated, implementation-specific)", I currently list all
>> possible BPF_ABS and BPF_IND opcodes regardless of whether they were
>> ever used (I didn't check which were used and which might not have been),
>> so I could just list all possible BPF_MSH opcodes similarly. But if we know
>> that some were never used then I don't need to do so, so I guess I should
>> ask:
>> do we have a list of which combinations were actually used or should we
>> continue to just deprecate all combinations?
>>
>> As an example,
>> https://github.com/seccomp/libseccomp/blob/main/tools/scmp_bpf_disasm.c#L68
>> lists 6 variants of BPF_MSH: LD and LDX, for B, H, and W (but not DW).
>> Other sources like the book page referenced above, and the BSD man page,
>> list only BPF_LDX | BPF_B | BPF_MSH, which is in Linux sources such as
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.8-rc1/source/lib/test_bpf.c#L368
>>
>> So, should we list the DW variants as deprecated, or never assigned?
>> Should we list the H, W, and LD variants as deprecated, or never assigned?
>>
>> What about DW and LDX variants of BPF_IND and BPF_ABS?
These we support:
/* Absolute load instructions, designed to be used in socket filters. */
{BPF_INSN_LDABSB, "ldabsb%W%i32", "r0 = * ( u8 * ) skb [ %i32 ]",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LD|BPF_SIZE_B|BPF_MODE_ABS},
{BPF_INSN_LDABSH, "ldabsh%W%i32", "r0 = * ( u16 * ) skb [ %i32 ]",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LD|BPF_SIZE_H|BPF_MODE_ABS},
{BPF_INSN_LDABSW, "ldabsw%W%i32", "r0 = * ( u32 * ) skb [ %i32 ]",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LD|BPF_SIZE_W|BPF_MODE_ABS},
{BPF_INSN_LDABSDW, "ldabsdw%W%i32", "r0 = * ( u64 * ) skb [ %i32 ]",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LD|BPF_SIZE_DW|BPF_MODE_ABS},
/* Generic load instructions (to register.) */
{BPF_INSN_LDXB, "ldxb%W%dr , [ %sr %o16 ]", "%dr = * ( u8 * ) ( %sr %o16 )",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LDX|BPF_SIZE_B|BPF_MODE_MEM},
{BPF_INSN_LDXH, "ldxh%W%dr , [ %sr %o16 ]", "%dr = * ( u16 * ) ( %sr %o16 )",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LDX|BPF_SIZE_H|BPF_MODE_MEM},
{BPF_INSN_LDXW, "ldxw%W%dr , [ %sr %o16 ]", "%dr = * ( u32 * ) ( %sr %o16 )",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LDX|BPF_SIZE_W|BPF_MODE_MEM},
{BPF_INSN_LDXDW, "ldxdw%W%dr , [ %sr %o16 ]","%dr = * ( u64 * ) ( %sr %o16 )",
BPF_V1, BPF_CODE, BPF_CLASS_LDX|BPF_SIZE_DW|BPF_MODE_MEM},
>> Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-27 19:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-27 18:50 ISA: BPF_MSH and deprecated packet access instructions dthaler1968
2024-01-27 18:50 ` [Bpf] " dthaler1968=40googlemail.com
2024-01-27 18:59 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-01-27 18:59 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-01-27 19:06 ` Jose E. Marchesi [this message]
2024-01-27 19:06 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-01-28 6:59 ` dthaler1968
2024-01-28 6:59 ` dthaler1968=40googlemail.com
2024-01-28 23:59 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-01-28 23:59 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-01-29 12:07 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-01-29 12:07 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-01-30 12:13 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-01-30 12:13 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-01-30 15:51 ` dthaler1968
2024-01-30 15:51 ` dthaler1968=40googlemail.com
2024-01-30 16:22 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-01-30 16:22 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-01-30 16:42 ` dthaler1968
2024-01-30 16:42 ` dthaler1968=40googlemail.com
2024-01-30 16:39 ` dthaler1968
2024-01-30 16:39 ` dthaler1968=40googlemail.com
2024-01-30 18:39 ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-30 18:39 ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-30 19:40 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-01-30 19:40 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-01-28 0:26 ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-28 0:26 ` [Bpf] " Yonghong Song
2024-01-28 0:53 ` dthaler1968
2024-01-28 0:53 ` [Bpf] " dthaler1968=40googlemail.com
2024-01-28 1:24 ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-28 1:24 ` [Bpf] " Yonghong Song
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