From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
ath10k <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
Emmanuel Grumbach <egrumbach@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Firmware debugging patches?
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 11:35:28 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738ffiysv.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53932F52.2030203@candelatech.com> (Ben Greear's message of "Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:27:14 -0700")
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
>>> Perhaps the time-stamp is good enough? I don't see a need for
>>> a uuid, but perhaps I am missing something?
>>
>> UUID is supposed to be unique. If we use walltime there's no guarantee
>> that the clock is correct and if we use local_clock() (my preference) it
>> will be reset after every boot.
>>
>> I just think using something like UUID is more robust. Especially if one
>> implements an automatic crash dump collector from thousands of deployed
>> APs, having an UUID makes it a lot easier to manage.
>
> I can add since-boot timestamp as well. Time-since-boot is less likely
> to be unique than wall-time, and for systems that do have proper wall-time
> clock configured, I think that provides some useful info. (Would be interesting
> if all APs in a stadium crashed near the same time, for instance.)
>
> I was thinking we should not add a MAC to the dump, for privacy concerns,
> but whatever user-space tools gather the dump could add MAC if user perfers.
The MAC addresses can be extracted from the target memory anyway so I
don't see harm from including that in the dump. Is it even possible to
address all privacy issues when dealing with firmware dumps?
> With time-of-day, time-since-boot, and MAC, each dump should be unique.
But I would like to easily match from kernel log that the crash dump
matches with log. uuid would provide that in a simple way (check that
the uuid in the log matches with the uuid in the dump). What's so bad
from using uuid?
--
Kalle Valo
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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: Emmanuel Grumbach <egrumbach@gmail.com>,
ath10k <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Firmware debugging patches?
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 11:35:28 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738ffiysv.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53932F52.2030203@candelatech.com> (Ben Greear's message of "Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:27:14 -0700")
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
>>> Perhaps the time-stamp is good enough? I don't see a need for
>>> a uuid, but perhaps I am missing something?
>>
>> UUID is supposed to be unique. If we use walltime there's no guarantee
>> that the clock is correct and if we use local_clock() (my preference) it
>> will be reset after every boot.
>>
>> I just think using something like UUID is more robust. Especially if one
>> implements an automatic crash dump collector from thousands of deployed
>> APs, having an UUID makes it a lot easier to manage.
>
> I can add since-boot timestamp as well. Time-since-boot is less likely
> to be unique than wall-time, and for systems that do have proper wall-time
> clock configured, I think that provides some useful info. (Would be interesting
> if all APs in a stadium crashed near the same time, for instance.)
>
> I was thinking we should not add a MAC to the dump, for privacy concerns,
> but whatever user-space tools gather the dump could add MAC if user perfers.
The MAC addresses can be extracted from the target memory anyway so I
don't see harm from including that in the dump. Is it even possible to
address all privacy issues when dealing with firmware dumps?
> With time-of-day, time-since-boot, and MAC, each dump should be unique.
But I would like to easily match from kernel log that the crash dump
matches with log. uuid would provide that in a simple way (check that
the uuid in the log matches with the uuid in the dump). What's so bad
from using uuid?
--
Kalle Valo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-08 8:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2014-06-02 16:21 ` Firmware debugging patches? Kalle Valo
2014-06-02 16:40 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-02 17:08 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-02 17:42 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-02 17:42 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-02 18:46 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2014-06-02 18:46 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2014-06-02 18:58 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-02 18:58 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-02 19:29 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2014-06-02 19:29 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2014-06-02 19:48 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-02 19:48 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-04 19:23 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2014-06-04 19:23 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2014-06-04 19:29 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-04 19:29 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-05 11:10 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 11:10 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 15:51 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-05 15:51 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-05 11:06 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 11:06 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 15:57 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-05 15:57 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-06 6:51 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06 6:51 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06 16:02 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-06 16:02 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-07 13:03 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-07 13:03 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-07 15:27 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-07 15:27 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-08 8:35 ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2014-06-08 8:35 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-08 9:13 ` Johannes Berg
2014-06-08 9:13 ` Johannes Berg
2014-06-08 16:01 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2014-06-08 16:01 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2014-06-08 15:39 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-08 15:39 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-09 8:17 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-09 8:17 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-09 15:09 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-09 15:09 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-09 15:47 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-09 15:47 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-09 16:27 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-09 16:27 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-10 6:05 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-10 6:05 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-10 15:06 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-10 15:06 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-26 15:26 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-26 15:26 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-26 16:01 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-26 16:01 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 10:58 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 10:58 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 15:59 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-05 15:59 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-05 10:51 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 10:51 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 16:03 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-05 16:03 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-02 21:21 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-06 9:43 ` Kalle Valo
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