From: Luis Gerhorst <luis.gerhorst@fau.de>
To: Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com>
Cc: Lukas Gerlach <lukas.gerlach@cispa.de>,
ast@kernel.org, bjorn@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
daniel.weber@cispa.de, daniel@iogearbox.net,
jo.vanbulck@kuleuven.be, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
luke.r.nels@gmail.com, marton.bognar@kuleuven.be,
michael.schwarz@cispa.de, palmer@dabbelt.com, pjw@kernel.org,
xi.wang@gmail.com, cleger@rivosinc.com, palmer@rivosinc.com,
conor.dooley@microchip.com, andrew@sifive.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv, bpf: Emit fence.i for BPF_NOSPEC
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2026 11:05:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875x9czagd.fsf@fau.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06ac0b87-d398-4cb0-a614-760bfe41cf7f@sifive.com> (Samuel Holland's message of "Wed, 7 Jan 2026 17:30:02 -0600")
Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com> writes:
> The Zifencei extension is no longer a mandatory part of the ISA, but it is
> mandatory for Linux. Linux requires at least "rv32ima or rv64ima, as defined by
> version 2.2 of the user ISA and version 1.10 of the privileged ISA".
>
> Notably, in version 2.2 of the user ISA, the Zifencei extension was still an
> unnamed subset of the I extension, so it is included in the above requirement.
> It was later removed from the I extension and given its own name, which is why
> we have weirdness like the code below. (You can see in arch/riscv/Makefile where
> we unconditionally add either ISA version 2.2 or Zifencei to CFLAGS.)
>
>> RISC-V cpufeature.c had this in [2]:
>>
>> /*
>> * Linux requires the following extensions, so we may as well
>> * always set them.
>> */
>> set_bit(RISCV_ISA_EXT_ZICSR, this_isa);
>> set_bit(RISCV_ISA_EXT_ZIFENCEI, this_isa);
>>
>> But as of [1] it was changed to:
>>
>> if (acpi_disabled) {
>> set_bit(RISCV_ISA_EXT_ZICSR, source_isa);
>> set_bit(RISCV_ISA_EXT_ZIFENCEI, source_isa);
>>
>> So based on that I would assume fence.i may not always be supported.
>
> This is just a quirk of the parsing code. As mentioned in [1], older devicetrees
> were written while Zifencei was an implicit part of I, so we don't expect it to
> appear in the devicetree. The ACPI table definition was written after Zifencei
> was a separate extension, so we do expect Zifencei to appear on its own in the
> ACPI table. But it is still required. (We don't currently check that all
> extensions required by the kernel are actually present; this will be done as
> part of the RVA23 enablement.)
>
>> But I also found that 921ebd8f2c08 ("RISC-V: Allow userspace to flush
>> the instruction cache") seems to assume that fence.i always works (see
>> local_flush_icache_all() which I assume runs in the kernel).
>
> Yes, the kernel definitely won't run if fence.i is missing, so we don't need to
> worry about such hardware. We could probably document this better.
Thanks for clarifying this! In that case the patch looks good to me.
I assume some testing has been done to ensure the instruction coding
works. (I think the eBPF CI does not have RISC-V yet but [1] previously
worked fine for me.)
Acked-by: Luis Gerhorst <luis.gerhorst@fau.de>
[1] https://github.com/pulehui/riscv-bpf-vmtest
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Luis Gerhorst <luis.gerhorst@fau.de>
To: Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com>
Cc: Lukas Gerlach <lukas.gerlach@cispa.de>,
ast@kernel.org, bjorn@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
daniel.weber@cispa.de, daniel@iogearbox.net,
jo.vanbulck@kuleuven.be, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
luke.r.nels@gmail.com, marton.bognar@kuleuven.be,
michael.schwarz@cispa.de, palmer@dabbelt.com, pjw@kernel.org,
xi.wang@gmail.com, cleger@rivosinc.com, palmer@rivosinc.com,
conor.dooley@microchip.com, andrew@sifive.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv, bpf: Emit fence.i for BPF_NOSPEC
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2026 11:05:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875x9czagd.fsf@fau.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06ac0b87-d398-4cb0-a614-760bfe41cf7f@sifive.com> (Samuel Holland's message of "Wed, 7 Jan 2026 17:30:02 -0600")
Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com> writes:
> The Zifencei extension is no longer a mandatory part of the ISA, but it is
> mandatory for Linux. Linux requires at least "rv32ima or rv64ima, as defined by
> version 2.2 of the user ISA and version 1.10 of the privileged ISA".
>
> Notably, in version 2.2 of the user ISA, the Zifencei extension was still an
> unnamed subset of the I extension, so it is included in the above requirement.
> It was later removed from the I extension and given its own name, which is why
> we have weirdness like the code below. (You can see in arch/riscv/Makefile where
> we unconditionally add either ISA version 2.2 or Zifencei to CFLAGS.)
>
>> RISC-V cpufeature.c had this in [2]:
>>
>> /*
>> * Linux requires the following extensions, so we may as well
>> * always set them.
>> */
>> set_bit(RISCV_ISA_EXT_ZICSR, this_isa);
>> set_bit(RISCV_ISA_EXT_ZIFENCEI, this_isa);
>>
>> But as of [1] it was changed to:
>>
>> if (acpi_disabled) {
>> set_bit(RISCV_ISA_EXT_ZICSR, source_isa);
>> set_bit(RISCV_ISA_EXT_ZIFENCEI, source_isa);
>>
>> So based on that I would assume fence.i may not always be supported.
>
> This is just a quirk of the parsing code. As mentioned in [1], older devicetrees
> were written while Zifencei was an implicit part of I, so we don't expect it to
> appear in the devicetree. The ACPI table definition was written after Zifencei
> was a separate extension, so we do expect Zifencei to appear on its own in the
> ACPI table. But it is still required. (We don't currently check that all
> extensions required by the kernel are actually present; this will be done as
> part of the RVA23 enablement.)
>
>> But I also found that 921ebd8f2c08 ("RISC-V: Allow userspace to flush
>> the instruction cache") seems to assume that fence.i always works (see
>> local_flush_icache_all() which I assume runs in the kernel).
>
> Yes, the kernel definitely won't run if fence.i is missing, so we don't need to
> worry about such hardware. We could probably document this better.
Thanks for clarifying this! In that case the patch looks good to me.
I assume some testing has been done to ensure the instruction coding
works. (I think the eBPF CI does not have RISC-V yet but [1] previously
worked fine for me.)
Acked-by: Luis Gerhorst <luis.gerhorst@fau.de>
[1] https://github.com/pulehui/riscv-bpf-vmtest
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-28 17:37 [PATCH] riscv, bpf: Emit fence.i for BPF_NOSPEC Lukas Gerlach
2025-12-28 17:37 ` Lukas Gerlach
2026-01-05 23:28 ` Paul Walmsley
2026-01-05 23:28 ` Paul Walmsley
2026-01-06 8:44 ` [PATCH] riscv, bpf: add a speculation barrier " Lukas Gerlach
2026-01-06 8:44 ` Lukas Gerlach
2026-01-07 8:26 ` Luis Gerhorst
2026-01-07 8:26 ` Luis Gerhorst
2026-01-07 9:54 ` [PATCH] riscv, bpf: Emit fence.i " Lukas Gerlach
2026-01-07 9:54 ` Lukas Gerlach
2026-01-07 17:52 ` Luis Gerhorst
2026-01-07 17:52 ` Luis Gerhorst
2026-01-07 23:30 ` Samuel Holland
2026-01-07 23:30 ` Samuel Holland
2026-01-08 10:05 ` Luis Gerhorst [this message]
2026-01-08 10:05 ` Luis Gerhorst
2026-01-09 3:41 ` Bo Gan
2026-01-09 3:41 ` Bo Gan
2026-01-09 5:36 ` [tech-speculation-barriers] " Stefan O'Rear
2026-01-09 5:36 ` Stefan O'Rear
2026-01-12 16:19 ` Luis Gerhorst
2026-01-12 16:19 ` Luis Gerhorst
2026-01-12 18:33 ` Bo Gan
2026-01-12 18:33 ` Bo Gan
2026-01-13 1:51 ` Paul Walmsley
2026-01-13 1:51 ` Paul Walmsley
2026-01-15 13:13 ` Lukas Gerlach
2026-01-15 13:13 ` Lukas Gerlach
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