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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Anthony Green" <green@moxielogic.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"Guan Xuetao" <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	"Marek Vasut" <marex@denx.de>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"Aleksandar Rikalo" <arikalo@wavecomp.com>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
	"Anthony Perard" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Paul Durrant" <paul.durrant@citrix.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	"Igor Mitsyanko" <i.mitsyanko@gmail.com>,
	"Bastian Koppelmann" <kbastian@mail.uni-paderborn.de>,
	"Chris Wulff" <crwulff@gmail.com>,
	"Jean-Christophe Dubois" <jcd@tribudubois.net>,
	"Andrey Smirnov" <andrew.smirnov@gmail.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	"Aleksandar Markovic" <amarkovic@wavecomp.com>,
	"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Maintainers, please tell us how to boot your machines!
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:34:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zsed86y.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0mwatbu.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (Markus Armbruster's message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2019 18:36:05 +0100")

Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> writes:

> Dear board code maintainers,
>
> This is a (rather late) follow-up to the last QEMU summit.  Minutes[*]:
>
>  * Deprecating unmaintained features (devices, targets, backends) in QEMU
>
>    QEMU has a mechanism to deprecate features but there remains a lot of
>    old unmaintained code.  Refactoring is hindered by untested legacy
>    code, so there is a desire to deprecate unmaintained features more
>    often.
>
>    [...]
>
>    We should require at least a minimal test for each board; if nobody
>    cares enough to come up with one, that board should be deprecated.
>
>    [...]
>
>    Also see the qemu-devel discussion about deprecating code:
>    https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2018-10/msg05828.html.
>
> That's a link to "Minutes of KVM Forum BoF on deprecating stuff".
> Quote:
>
>  * One obvious class of candidates for removal is machines we don't know
>    how to boot, or can't boot, say because we lack required firmware
>    and/or OS.
>
>    Of course, "can boot" should be an automated test.  As a first step
>    towards that, we should at least document how to boot each machine.
>    We're going to ask machine maintainers to do that.
>
> Let's get going on this.
>
> I gathered the machine types, mapped them to source files, which I fed
> to get_maintainer.pl.  Results are appended.  If you're cc'ed,
> MAINTAINERS fingers you for at least one machine type's source file.
> Please tell us for all of them how to to a "meaningful" boot test.
>
> For now, what's "meaningful" is entirely up to you.  Booting Linux
> certainly is.
>
> Make sure to include a complete QEMU command line.  If your QEMU command
> line requires resources beyond the QEMU source tree and what we build
> from it, please detail them, and provide download URLs as far as
> possible.
>
> Goals for this exercise:
>
> * Gather information we need to cover more machines in our automated
>   testing.
>
>   Related work:
>   [PATCH v4 00/19] Acceptance Tests: target architecture support
>   Message-Id: <20190312121150.8638-1-crosa@redhat.com>
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-03/msg03881.html
>
> * Maybe identify a few machines we don't know how to boot anymore.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!

Quite a few maintainers replied, and a few others, too.  Thank you!

I still have to fully digest the replies, in particular whether there's
enough detail for me to actually boot a guest.

I'm still lacking information on 26 machines.  If you're cc'ed, you're
considered a possible source of information.  Please help.

If you're a supporter or maintainer, but can't help, please consider
adjusting MAINTAINERS to S: Odd Fixes for the machine.

Machines with at least one supporter:

    = hw/xenpv/xen_machine_pv.c =
    Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org> (supporter:X86)
    Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com> (supporter:X86)
    Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@citrix.com> (supporter:X86)
    xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org (open list:X86)

Machines with no supporter, but at least one maintainer:

    = hw/arm/integratorcp.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (maintainer:Integrator CP)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Integrator CP)

    = hw/arm/omap_sx1.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (maintainer:OMAP)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:ARM)

    = hw/mips/mips_jazz.c =
    "Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org> (maintainer:Jazz)
    Aleksandar Rikalo <arikalo@wavecomp.com> (reviewer:Jazz)
    Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> (maintainer:MIPS)
    Aleksandar Markovic <amarkovic@wavecomp.com> (maintainer:MIPS)

    = hw/mips/mips_r4k.c =
    Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> (maintainer:R4000)
    Aleksandar Rikalo <arikalo@wavecomp.com> (reviewer:R4000)
    Aleksandar Markovic <amarkovic@wavecomp.com> (maintainer:MIPS)

    = hw/moxie/moxiesim.c =
    Anthony Green <green@moxielogic.com> (maintainer:Moxie)

    = hw/nios2/10m50_devboard.c =
    Chris Wulff <crwulff@gmail.com> (maintainer:NiosII)
    Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> (maintainer:NiosII)

    = hw/ppc/virtex_ml507.c =
    "Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com> (odd fixer:virtex_ml507)
    David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> (maintainer:PowerPC)
    qemu-ppc@nongnu.org (open list:virtex_ml507)

    = hw/tricore/tricore_testboard.c =
    Bastian Koppelmann <kbastian@mail.uni-paderborn.de> (maintainer:TriCore)

    = hw/unicore32/puv3.c =
    Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn> (maintainer:UniCore32)

Machines with no maintainer and no supporter:

    = hw/arm/collie.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:Sharp SL-5500 (Co...)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Sharp SL-5500 (Co...)

    = hw/arm/exynos4_boards.c =
    Igor Mitsyanko <i.mitsyanko@gmail.com> (odd fixer:Exynos)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:Exynos)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Exynos)

    = hw/arm/imx25_pdk.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:i.MX25 PDK)
    Jean-Christophe Dubois <jcd@tribudubois.net> (reviewer:i.MX25 PDK)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:i.MX25 PDK)

    = hw/arm/mainstone.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:PXA2XX)

    = hw/arm/mcimx6ul-evk.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:MCIMX6UL EVK / i....)
    Jean-Christophe Dubois <jcd@tribudubois.net> (reviewer:MCIMX6UL EVK / i....)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:MCIMX6UL EVK / i....)

    = hw/arm/mcimx7d-sabre.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:MCIMX7D SABRE / i...)
    Andrey Smirnov <andrew.smirnov@gmail.com> (reviewer:MCIMX7D SABRE / i...)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:MCIMX7D SABRE / i...)

    = hw/arm/musicpal.c =
    Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de> (odd fixer:Musicpal)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:Musicpal)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Musicpal)

    = hw/arm/palm.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:Palm)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:Palm)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Palm)

    = hw/arm/sabrelite.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:SABRELITE / i.MX6)
    Jean-Christophe Dubois <jcd@tribudubois.net> (reviewer:SABRELITE / i.MX6)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:SABRELITE / i.MX6)

    = hw/arm/spitz.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:PXA2XX)

    = hw/arm/tosa.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:PXA2XX)

    = hw/arm/z2.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:PXA2XX)

    = hw/ppc/mpc8544ds.c =
    David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> (odd fixer:mpc8544ds)
    qemu-ppc@nongnu.org (open list:mpc8544ds)
    Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> (ratted out by David)

    = hw/ppc/ppc405_boards.c =
    David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> (odd fixer:ppc4xx)
    qemu-ppc@nongnu.org (open list:ppc4xx) (ratted out by David)

Machines in danger of being orphaned & deprecated:

    = hw/lm32/lm32_boards.c =
    Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc> (maintainer:LM32)

    = hw/lm32/milkymist.c =
    Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc> (maintainer:milkymist)

Targets where we have received information for *no* machine so far:

    lm32
    moxie
    nios2
    tricore
    unicore

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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Anthony Green" <green@moxielogic.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"Guan Xuetao" <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	"Marek Vasut" <marex@denx.de>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"Aleksandar Rikalo" <arikalo@wavecomp.com>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
	"Anthony Perard" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Andrzej Zaborowski" <balrogg@gmail.com>,
	"Paul Durrant" <paul.durrant@citrix.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	"Igor Mitsyanko" <i.mitsyanko@gmail.com>,
	"Bastian Koppelmann" <kbastian@mail.uni-paderborn.de>,
	"Chris Wulff" <crwulff@gmail.com>,
	"Jean-Christophe Dubois" <jcd@tribudubois.net>,
	"Andrey Smirnov" <andrew.smirnov@gmail.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	"Aleksandar Markovic" <amarkovic@wavecomp.com>
Subject: Re: Maintainers, please tell us how to boot your machines!
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:34:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zsed86y.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0mwatbu.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (Markus Armbruster's message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2019 18:36:05 +0100")

Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> writes:

> Dear board code maintainers,
>
> This is a (rather late) follow-up to the last QEMU summit.  Minutes[*]:
>
>  * Deprecating unmaintained features (devices, targets, backends) in QEMU
>
>    QEMU has a mechanism to deprecate features but there remains a lot of
>    old unmaintained code.  Refactoring is hindered by untested legacy
>    code, so there is a desire to deprecate unmaintained features more
>    often.
>
>    [...]
>
>    We should require at least a minimal test for each board; if nobody
>    cares enough to come up with one, that board should be deprecated.
>
>    [...]
>
>    Also see the qemu-devel discussion about deprecating code:
>    https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2018-10/msg05828.html.
>
> That's a link to "Minutes of KVM Forum BoF on deprecating stuff".
> Quote:
>
>  * One obvious class of candidates for removal is machines we don't know
>    how to boot, or can't boot, say because we lack required firmware
>    and/or OS.
>
>    Of course, "can boot" should be an automated test.  As a first step
>    towards that, we should at least document how to boot each machine.
>    We're going to ask machine maintainers to do that.
>
> Let's get going on this.
>
> I gathered the machine types, mapped them to source files, which I fed
> to get_maintainer.pl.  Results are appended.  If you're cc'ed,
> MAINTAINERS fingers you for at least one machine type's source file.
> Please tell us for all of them how to to a "meaningful" boot test.
>
> For now, what's "meaningful" is entirely up to you.  Booting Linux
> certainly is.
>
> Make sure to include a complete QEMU command line.  If your QEMU command
> line requires resources beyond the QEMU source tree and what we build
> from it, please detail them, and provide download URLs as far as
> possible.
>
> Goals for this exercise:
>
> * Gather information we need to cover more machines in our automated
>   testing.
>
>   Related work:
>   [PATCH v4 00/19] Acceptance Tests: target architecture support
>   Message-Id: <20190312121150.8638-1-crosa@redhat.com>
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-03/msg03881.html
>
> * Maybe identify a few machines we don't know how to boot anymore.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!

Quite a few maintainers replied, and a few others, too.  Thank you!

I still have to fully digest the replies, in particular whether there's
enough detail for me to actually boot a guest.

I'm still lacking information on 26 machines.  If you're cc'ed, you're
considered a possible source of information.  Please help.

If you're a supporter or maintainer, but can't help, please consider
adjusting MAINTAINERS to S: Odd Fixes for the machine.

Machines with at least one supporter:

    = hw/xenpv/xen_machine_pv.c =
    Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org> (supporter:X86)
    Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com> (supporter:X86)
    Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@citrix.com> (supporter:X86)
    xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org (open list:X86)

Machines with no supporter, but at least one maintainer:

    = hw/arm/integratorcp.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (maintainer:Integrator CP)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Integrator CP)

    = hw/arm/omap_sx1.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (maintainer:OMAP)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:ARM)

    = hw/mips/mips_jazz.c =
    "Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org> (maintainer:Jazz)
    Aleksandar Rikalo <arikalo@wavecomp.com> (reviewer:Jazz)
    Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> (maintainer:MIPS)
    Aleksandar Markovic <amarkovic@wavecomp.com> (maintainer:MIPS)

    = hw/mips/mips_r4k.c =
    Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> (maintainer:R4000)
    Aleksandar Rikalo <arikalo@wavecomp.com> (reviewer:R4000)
    Aleksandar Markovic <amarkovic@wavecomp.com> (maintainer:MIPS)

    = hw/moxie/moxiesim.c =
    Anthony Green <green@moxielogic.com> (maintainer:Moxie)

    = hw/nios2/10m50_devboard.c =
    Chris Wulff <crwulff@gmail.com> (maintainer:NiosII)
    Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> (maintainer:NiosII)

    = hw/ppc/virtex_ml507.c =
    "Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com> (odd fixer:virtex_ml507)
    David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> (maintainer:PowerPC)
    qemu-ppc@nongnu.org (open list:virtex_ml507)

    = hw/tricore/tricore_testboard.c =
    Bastian Koppelmann <kbastian@mail.uni-paderborn.de> (maintainer:TriCore)

    = hw/unicore32/puv3.c =
    Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn> (maintainer:UniCore32)

Machines with no maintainer and no supporter:

    = hw/arm/collie.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:Sharp SL-5500 (Co...)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Sharp SL-5500 (Co...)

    = hw/arm/exynos4_boards.c =
    Igor Mitsyanko <i.mitsyanko@gmail.com> (odd fixer:Exynos)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:Exynos)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Exynos)

    = hw/arm/imx25_pdk.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:i.MX25 PDK)
    Jean-Christophe Dubois <jcd@tribudubois.net> (reviewer:i.MX25 PDK)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:i.MX25 PDK)

    = hw/arm/mainstone.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:PXA2XX)

    = hw/arm/mcimx6ul-evk.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:MCIMX6UL EVK / i....)
    Jean-Christophe Dubois <jcd@tribudubois.net> (reviewer:MCIMX6UL EVK / i....)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:MCIMX6UL EVK / i....)

    = hw/arm/mcimx7d-sabre.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:MCIMX7D SABRE / i...)
    Andrey Smirnov <andrew.smirnov@gmail.com> (reviewer:MCIMX7D SABRE / i...)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:MCIMX7D SABRE / i...)

    = hw/arm/musicpal.c =
    Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de> (odd fixer:Musicpal)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:Musicpal)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Musicpal)

    = hw/arm/palm.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:Palm)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:Palm)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:Palm)

    = hw/arm/sabrelite.c =
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:SABRELITE / i.MX6)
    Jean-Christophe Dubois <jcd@tribudubois.net> (reviewer:SABRELITE / i.MX6)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:SABRELITE / i.MX6)

    = hw/arm/spitz.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:PXA2XX)

    = hw/arm/tosa.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:PXA2XX)

    = hw/arm/z2.c =
    Andrzej Zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> (odd fixer:PXA2XX)
    qemu-arm@nongnu.org (open list:PXA2XX)

    = hw/ppc/mpc8544ds.c =
    David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> (odd fixer:mpc8544ds)
    qemu-ppc@nongnu.org (open list:mpc8544ds)
    Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> (ratted out by David)

    = hw/ppc/ppc405_boards.c =
    David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> (odd fixer:ppc4xx)
    qemu-ppc@nongnu.org (open list:ppc4xx) (ratted out by David)

Machines in danger of being orphaned & deprecated:

    = hw/lm32/lm32_boards.c =
    Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc> (maintainer:LM32)

    = hw/lm32/milkymist.c =
    Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc> (maintainer:milkymist)

Targets where we have received information for *no* machine so far:

    lm32
    moxie
    nios2
    tricore
    unicore

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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87d0mwatbu.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>
2019-03-19 18:34 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2019-03-19 18:34   ` Maintainers, please tell us how to boot your machines! Markus Armbruster
2019-03-19 19:18   ` [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2019-03-19 19:18     ` Peter Maydell
2019-03-20 12:21   ` [Qemu-arm] " Anthony PERARD
2019-03-20 18:29     ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2019-03-20 18:29       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-03-20 12:21   ` Anthony PERARD
2019-03-21 21:13   ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-03-21 21:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-03-28 13:57   ` Guan Xuetao
2019-03-28 13:57   ` [Qemu-devel] " Guan Xuetao
2019-04-16  2:24 ` Andrey Smirnov
2019-04-16  2:24   ` Andrey Smirnov
2019-04-16  9:13 ` KONRAD Frederic
2019-04-16  9:13   ` KONRAD Frederic
     [not found] ` <CAAdtpL6VCiXLbTWyJo4cbCNLjOCPr6KrH8KTqEq1V=CTMYKubQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-12 11:11   ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-12 11:11     ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-12 11:28     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-12 11:28       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-12 12:12       ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-12 12:12         ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-12 14:42         ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-12 14:42           ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-18  8:16   ` sundeep subbaraya
2019-04-18  8:16     ` sundeep subbaraya
2019-05-16 20:07 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-05-17 17:42   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-12-22 12:03     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-13 12:52       ` Markus Armbruster

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