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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, drjones@redhat.com,
	vijay.kilari@gmail.com, christoffer.dall@linaro.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com,
	Vijaya.Kumar@cavium.com, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	shannon.zhao@linaro.org, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	eric.auger.pro@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-arm] [RFC 3/4] hw/intc/arm_gicv3_its: Implement state save/restore
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:40:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8760kwec2a.fsf@emacs.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21a261aa-15ac-d24f-8318-ec1a659fc293@redhat.com> (Auger Eric's message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:45:38 +0100")

Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi Juan,
>
> On 30/01/2017 10:15, Juan Quintela wrote:
>> Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> We need to handle both registers and ITS tables. While
>>> register handling is standard, ITS table handling is more
>>> challenging since the kernel API is devised so that the
>>> tables are flushed into guest RAM and not in vmstate buffers.
>>>
>>> Flushing the ITS tables on device pre_save() is too late
>>> since the guest RAM had already been saved at this point.
>>>
>>> Table flushing needs to happen when we are sure the vcpus
>>> are stopped and before the last dirty page saving. The
>>> right point is RUN_STATE_FINISH_MIGRATE but sometimes the
>>> VM gets stopped before migration launch so let's simply
>>> flush the tables each time the VM gets stopped.
>>>
>>> For regular ITS registers we just can use vmstate pre_save
>>> and post_load callbacks.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> 
>>> + * vm_change_state_handler - VM change state callback aiming at flushing
>>> + * ITS tables into guest RAM
>>> + *
>>> + * The tables get flushed to guest RAM whenever the VM gets stopped.
>>> + */
>>> +static void vm_change_state_handler(void *opaque, int running,
>>> +                                    RunState state)
>>> +{
>>> +    GICv3ITSState *s = (GICv3ITSState *)opaque;
>> 
>> Cast is unneeded.
>> 
>>> +
>>> +    if (running) {
>>> +        return;
>>> +    }
>>> +    kvm_device_access(s->dev_fd, KVM_DEV_ARM_VGIC_GRP_ITS_TABLES,
>>> +                      0, NULL, false);
>> 
>> As you are adding it to do everytime that we stop the guest, how
>> expensive/slow is that?
>
> This is highly dependent on the number of devices using MSIs and number
> of allocated MSIs on guest. The number of bytes to transfer basically is:
>
> (#nb_vcpus + #nb_devices_using_MSI_on_guest  +  2 *
> nb_allocated_guest_MSIs bytes ) * 8 bytes
>
> So I would say < 10 kB in real life case. In my virtio-pci test case it
> is just 440 Bytes.
>
> For live migration I could hook a callback at RUN_STATE_FINISH_MIGRATE.
> However this does not work with virsh save/restore use case since the
> notifier is not called (the VM being already paused), hence that choice.

Agreed as a workaround.

We really need two notifiers:
- one that is run before the "completion stage" on source
- another that is run when we start the guest after a migration

But that is independent of this patch.

Later, Juan.

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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, drjones@redhat.com,
	vijay.kilari@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com,
	Vijaya.Kumar@cavium.com, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	shannon.zhao@linaro.org, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	christoffer.dall@linaro.org, eric.auger.pro@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/4] hw/intc/arm_gicv3_its: Implement state save/restore
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:40:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8760kwec2a.fsf@emacs.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21a261aa-15ac-d24f-8318-ec1a659fc293@redhat.com> (Auger Eric's message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:45:38 +0100")

Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi Juan,
>
> On 30/01/2017 10:15, Juan Quintela wrote:
>> Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> We need to handle both registers and ITS tables. While
>>> register handling is standard, ITS table handling is more
>>> challenging since the kernel API is devised so that the
>>> tables are flushed into guest RAM and not in vmstate buffers.
>>>
>>> Flushing the ITS tables on device pre_save() is too late
>>> since the guest RAM had already been saved at this point.
>>>
>>> Table flushing needs to happen when we are sure the vcpus
>>> are stopped and before the last dirty page saving. The
>>> right point is RUN_STATE_FINISH_MIGRATE but sometimes the
>>> VM gets stopped before migration launch so let's simply
>>> flush the tables each time the VM gets stopped.
>>>
>>> For regular ITS registers we just can use vmstate pre_save
>>> and post_load callbacks.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> 
>>> + * vm_change_state_handler - VM change state callback aiming at flushing
>>> + * ITS tables into guest RAM
>>> + *
>>> + * The tables get flushed to guest RAM whenever the VM gets stopped.
>>> + */
>>> +static void vm_change_state_handler(void *opaque, int running,
>>> +                                    RunState state)
>>> +{
>>> +    GICv3ITSState *s = (GICv3ITSState *)opaque;
>> 
>> Cast is unneeded.
>> 
>>> +
>>> +    if (running) {
>>> +        return;
>>> +    }
>>> +    kvm_device_access(s->dev_fd, KVM_DEV_ARM_VGIC_GRP_ITS_TABLES,
>>> +                      0, NULL, false);
>> 
>> As you are adding it to do everytime that we stop the guest, how
>> expensive/slow is that?
>
> This is highly dependent on the number of devices using MSIs and number
> of allocated MSIs on guest. The number of bytes to transfer basically is:
>
> (#nb_vcpus + #nb_devices_using_MSI_on_guest  +  2 *
> nb_allocated_guest_MSIs bytes ) * 8 bytes
>
> So I would say < 10 kB in real life case. In my virtio-pci test case it
> is just 440 Bytes.
>
> For live migration I could hook a callback at RUN_STATE_FINISH_MIGRATE.
> However this does not work with virsh save/restore use case since the
> notifier is not called (the VM being already paused), hence that choice.

Agreed as a workaround.

We really need two notifiers:
- one that is run before the "completion stage" on source
- another that is run when we start the guest after a migration

But that is independent of this patch.

Later, Juan.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-30 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-26  9:19 [Qemu-arm] [RFC 0/4] vITS save/restore Eric Auger
2017-01-26  9:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Auger
2017-01-26  9:19 ` [Qemu-arm] [RFC 1/4] linux-headers: Partial update for " Eric Auger
2017-01-26  9:19   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Auger
2017-01-26  9:19 ` [Qemu-arm] [RFC 2/4] hw/intc/arm_gicv3_kvm: Rename KVM_DEV_ARM_VGIC_GRP_CPU_SYSREGS Eric Auger
2017-01-26  9:19   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Auger
2017-01-27  7:02   ` [Qemu-arm] " Vijay Kilari
2017-01-27  7:02     ` [Qemu-devel] " Vijay Kilari
2017-01-27  7:44     ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2017-01-27  7:44       ` [Qemu-devel] " Auger Eric
2017-01-26  9:19 ` [Qemu-arm] [RFC 3/4] hw/intc/arm_gicv3_its: Implement state save/restore Eric Auger
2017-01-26  9:19   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Auger
2017-01-27  7:17   ` [Qemu-arm] " Vijay Kilari
2017-01-27  7:17     ` [Qemu-devel] " Vijay Kilari
2017-01-27  7:43     ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2017-01-27  7:43       ` [Qemu-devel] " Auger Eric
2017-01-30  9:15   ` Juan Quintela
2017-01-30  9:15     ` Juan Quintela
2017-01-30 10:45     ` Auger Eric
2017-01-30 10:45       ` Auger Eric
2017-01-30 16:40       ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2017-01-30 16:40         ` Juan Quintela
2017-01-26  9:19 ` [Qemu-arm] [RFC 4/4] hw/intc/arm_gicv3_its: Allow save/restore Eric Auger
2017-01-26  9:19   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Auger
2017-01-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-arm] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-01-26 10:06     ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-01-26 13:30     ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2017-01-26 13:30       ` [Qemu-devel] " Auger Eric
2017-02-03  9:55       ` Peter Xu
2017-02-03  9:55         ` Peter Xu
2017-02-03  9:57         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-02-03  9:57           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-02-03 11:38           ` [Qemu-arm] " Peter Xu
2017-02-03 11:38             ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2017-02-07 14:36 ` [Qemu-arm] [RFC 0/4] vITS save/restore Peter Maydell
2017-02-07 14:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2017-02-10  9:07   ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2017-02-10  9:07     ` [Qemu-devel] " Auger Eric

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