From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: For review: pid_namespaces(7) man page
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:03:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <876217olp0.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1362369010.29250.3@driftwood> (Rob Landley's message of "Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:50:10 -0600")
Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
> On 03/01/2013 03:57:40 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> > And yet the glibc guys insist on #define
>> GNU_GNU_GNU_ALL_HAIL_STALLMAN in
>> > order to access this Linux-specific feature which has nothing
>> whatsoever to
>> > do with the FSF.
>>
>> This is a misunderstanding. _GNU_SOURCE is the standard way to expose
>> Linux-specific functionality from POSIX header files.
>
> What standard? The Linux kernel is not, and never was, part of the GNU
> project.
Is the argument that there should be a _LINUX_SOURCE directive in glibc
for this?
Although come to think of it I can't imagine how <sched.h> is a POSIX
header. Last I looked it only had linux specific bits in it. Which
makes needing any kind of #define strange.
Eric
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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: For review: pid_namespaces(7) man page
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:03:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <876217olp0.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1362369010.29250.3@driftwood> (Rob Landley's message of "Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:50:10 -0600")
Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> writes:
> On 03/01/2013 03:57:40 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> > And yet the glibc guys insist on #define
>> GNU_GNU_GNU_ALL_HAIL_STALLMAN in
>> > order to access this Linux-specific feature which has nothing
>> whatsoever to
>> > do with the FSF.
>>
>> This is a misunderstanding. _GNU_SOURCE is the standard way to expose
>> Linux-specific functionality from POSIX header files.
>
> What standard? The Linux kernel is not, and never was, part of the GNU
> project.
Is the argument that there should be a _LINUX_SOURCE directive in glibc
for this?
Although come to think of it I can't imagine how <sched.h> is a POSIX
header. Last I looked it only had linux specific bits in it. Which
makes needing any kind of #define strange.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-04 4:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-28 11:24 For review: pid_namespaces(7) man page Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-28 11:24 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAki=mUYuu_Ewhe7sjCmo+Dq2Vr+FZCixqNRaadcvAxtpFw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-28 14:24 ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-02-28 14:24 ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-02-28 14:24 ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-03-01 8:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 8:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkjXAfq4RwtX1ELier+GLv0D5e9spM3Os3-oqSCXGqRqOg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-01 8:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-01 8:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87fw0f5xfw.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-01 8:53 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 8:53 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 8:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-28 15:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-28 15:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-28 15:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87txowa2cm.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-01 8:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 8:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 8:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkjxrbcpONCU4UdD0-cjXwbHr+YwkOR0H_aXp3CGB283Uw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-01 9:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-01 9:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <877glr5vuo.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-01 10:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 10:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 10:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 4:01 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-01 4:01 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-01 6:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-01 6:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-01 6:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-01 9:57 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-01 9:57 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkgVKnhRT1Lpq4a_UdBKB+tn6XmWSDF2QJXG0aSLtNH6dg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-01 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-01 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-01 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87wqtr3zg5.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 12:46 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-04 12:46 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-04 12:46 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkjGD0FdQqpA+rYR=+Yc5uVPB8mE5JjCqy-5WS85cPsvng-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 17:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-04 17:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87k3pnhx2k.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 5:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkjYmvjMzC+nYqsjHf4bQn2ZwdE5wawoP2p32ZSo+0dfcQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 6:23 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-05 6:23 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-05 6:23 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-05 6:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-05 6:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-05 6:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87r4jucprp.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 8:37 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-05 8:37 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkgqE7owqsmD+9-9fZtzMQ76H53a+Aat0CH670jNTUfbFA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-06 0:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-06 0:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-06 0:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87boax4axy.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-07 8:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-07 8:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkgRs7kg5PsMrBDNO8_z=5L5zM7DmLgU8pNwT_ck4Hmvhw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-07 8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-07 8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-07 8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-05 8:37 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-06 1:58 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-06 1:58 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-06 2:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-06 2:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-04 3:50 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-04 3:50 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-04 4:03 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2013-03-04 4:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <876217olp0.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 12:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-04 12:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-04 12:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-04 19:27 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-04 19:27 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-05 7:01 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-05 7:01 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-05 7:01 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-04 12:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-04 12:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-03-04 12:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2014-08-20 23:38 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-08-20 23:38 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-08-20 23:38 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-28 11:24 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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