* Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
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From: Markus Armbruster @ 2019-12-20 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, KONRAD Frederic, qemu-block,
Juan Quintela, Michael Roth, Hervé Poussineau,
Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Eduardo Habkost,
Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau, Stefan Hajnoczi,
Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée, Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf,
Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz, qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic,
Paolo Bonzini, Aurelien Jarno
Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
a Python script.
[*] https://pythonclock.org/
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
@ 2019-12-20 16:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eduardo Habkost @ 2019-12-20 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Armbruster
Cc: qemu-devel, Paolo Bonzini, Marcelo Tosatti, Stefan Hajnoczi,
Peter Maydell, Cleber Rosa, Richard Henderson,
Marc-André Lureau, Michael Roth, Fam Zheng, Juan Quintela,
Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Aurelien Jarno, Aleksandar Markovic,
Aleksandar Rikalo, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Fabien Chouteau,
KONRAD Frederic, Hervé Poussineau, Alex Bennée,
Kevin Wolf, Max Reitz, kvm, qemu-block, qemu-ppc
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:29:30PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
Thanks for the reminder!
I'll be honest: even if somebody in this list objects to dropping
Python 2 support, I'm not willing to be maintainer of a Python 2
codebase in 2020. The only reason for not doing it in 4.1 was
the tests/vm/netbsd breakage we took very long to debug and fix.
I have just submitted this pull request:
Subject: [PULL 0/2] Require Python >= 3.5 to build QEMU
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20191220165141.2207058-1-ehabkost@redhat.com/
>
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
>
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/
--
Eduardo
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-20 16:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
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From: Eduardo Habkost @ 2019-12-20 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Armbruster
Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, qemu-devel, KONRAD Frederic,
qemu-block, Juan Quintela, Michael Roth, Hervé Poussineau,
Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Dr. David Alan Gilbert,
Fabien Chouteau, Stefan Hajnoczi, Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée,
Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf, Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz,
qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic, Paolo Bonzini, Aurelien Jarno
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:29:30PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
Thanks for the reminder!
I'll be honest: even if somebody in this list objects to dropping
Python 2 support, I'm not willing to be maintainer of a Python 2
codebase in 2020. The only reason for not doing it in 4.1 was
the tests/vm/netbsd breakage we took very long to debug and fix.
I have just submitted this pull request:
Subject: [PULL 0/2] Require Python >= 3.5 to build QEMU
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20191220165141.2207058-1-ehabkost@redhat.com/
>
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
>
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/
--
Eduardo
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
2019-12-20 16:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
(?)
@ 2019-12-21 7:59 ` Markus Armbruster
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Markus Armbruster @ 2019-12-21 7:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eduardo Habkost; +Cc: qemu-devel
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:29:30PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
>> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
>> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>
> Thanks for the reminder!
>
> I'll be honest: even if somebody in this list objects to dropping
> Python 2 support, I'm not willing to be maintainer of a Python 2
> codebase in 2020. The only reason for not doing it in 4.1 was
> the tests/vm/netbsd breakage we took very long to debug and fix.
I wasn't exactly "willing" in 2019...
> I have just submitted this pull request:
>
> Subject: [PULL 0/2] Require Python >= 3.5 to build QEMU
> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20191220165141.2207058-1-ehabkost@redhat.com/
Awesome, thanks!
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
@ 2019-12-20 18:56 ` Juan Quintela
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juan Quintela @ 2019-12-20 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Armbruster
Cc: qemu-devel, Paolo Bonzini, Marcelo Tosatti, Stefan Hajnoczi,
Peter Maydell, Eduardo Habkost, Cleber Rosa, Richard Henderson,
Marc-André Lureau, Michael Roth, Fam Zheng,
Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Aurelien Jarno, Aleksandar Markovic,
Aleksandar Rikalo, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Fabien Chouteau,
KONRAD Frederic, Hervé Poussineau, Alex Bennée,
Kevin Wolf, Max Reitz, kvm, qemu-block, qemu-ppc
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
>
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/
I am pretty sure that I am not a python maintaainer at all.
But anyways, python3 is only at python3.7.
python3.0 debuted at 2008, so ...
Acked-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Reviewed-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
And anything else that you can think that endorses the change.
Later, Juan.
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-20 18:56 ` Juan Quintela
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juan Quintela @ 2019-12-20 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Armbruster
Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, qemu-devel, KONRAD Frederic,
qemu-block, Michael Roth, Hervé Poussineau,
Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Eduardo Habkost,
Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau, Stefan Hajnoczi,
Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée, Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf,
Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz, qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic,
Paolo Bonzini, Aurelien Jarno
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
>
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/
I am pretty sure that I am not a python maintaainer at all.
But anyways, python3 is only at python3.7.
python3.0 debuted at 2008, so ...
Acked-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Reviewed-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
And anything else that you can think that endorses the change.
Later, Juan.
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
2019-12-20 18:56 ` Juan Quintela
(?)
@ 2019-12-21 7:57 ` Markus Armbruster
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Markus Armbruster @ 2019-12-21 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juan Quintela; +Cc: qemu-devel
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com> writes:
> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
>> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
>> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>>
>> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
>> a Python script.
>>
>> [*] https://pythonclock.org/
>
> I am pretty sure that I am not a python maintaainer at all.
You are:
$ scripts/get_maintainer.pl -f scripts/vmstate-static-checker.py
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com> (maintainer:Migration)
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> (maintainer:Migration)
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> (odd fixer:Python scripts)
Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com> (odd fixer:Python scripts)
qemu-devel@nongnu.org (open list:All patches CC here)
Resistance is futile!
[...]
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
@ 2019-12-21 13:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2019-12-21 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Armbruster, qemu-devel
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Stefan Hajnoczi, Peter Maydell, Eduardo Habkost,
Cleber Rosa, Richard Henderson, Marc-André Lureau,
Michael Roth, Fam Zheng, Juan Quintela, Dr. David Alan Gilbert,
Aurelien Jarno, Aleksandar Markovic, Aleksandar Rikalo,
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Fabien Chouteau, KONRAD Frederic,
Hervé Poussineau, Alex Bennée, Kevin Wolf, Max Reitz,
kvm, qemu-block, qemu-ppc
On 20/12/19 17:29, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
>
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/
Fortunately Betteridge's law of headlines is not always true. :)
Paolo
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-21 13:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2019-12-21 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Armbruster, qemu-devel
Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, KONRAD Frederic, qemu-block,
Juan Quintela, Michael Roth, Hervé Poussineau,
Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Eduardo Habkost,
Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau, Stefan Hajnoczi,
Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée, Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf,
Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz, qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic,
Aurelien Jarno
On 20/12/19 17:29, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
>
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/
Fortunately Betteridge's law of headlines is not always true. :)
Paolo
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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
2019-12-21 13:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
(?)
@ 2019-12-21 18:10 ` Aleksandar Markovic
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Aleksandar Markovic @ 2019-12-21 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paolo Bonzini
Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Roth, KONRAD Frederic,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela, Markus Armbruster,
Hervé Poussineau, Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Eduardo Habkost,
Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau, Stefan Hajnoczi,
Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée, Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf,
Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
Aleksandar Markovic, Aurelien Jarno
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On Saturday, December 21, 2019, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 20/12/19 17:29, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*]. We made configure bitch about
> > it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01. Any
> > objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
> >
> > Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> > a Python script.
> >
> > [*] https://pythonclock.org/
>
> Fortunately Betteridge's law of headlines is not always true. :)
>
>
Perhaps we can formulate a new law that says:
"Any person who says that he/she is pretty sure he/she is not a maintainer
of something at all, is, in fact, and for sure, the maintainer of that
thing."
:)
Aleksandar
Paolo
>
>
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