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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, ath10k@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ath10k:  provide firmware crash info via debugfs.
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 11:28:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877g4riz3w.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <539330A1.9050307@candelatech.com> (Ben Greear's message of "Sat,  7 Jun 2014 08:32:49 -0700")

Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:

> On 06/07/2014 05:55 AM, Kalle Valo wrote:
>> Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
>>
>>>>> I'm a bit leery of adding spin-locks in the dump routine just for
>>>>> this, but I can add and use a new spin-lock if you prefer.
>>>>
>>>> Why a new spinlock? I didn't review the locking requirements, but I
>>>> would first check ar->data_lock can be used.
>>>
>>> I think it has to be a spin-lock because the crash dump is gathered
>>> in the irq handler, so I can't use a mutex as far as I know...
>>>
>>> I'll work on adding such a lock today.
>>
>> I asked why add a _new_ spinlock as ar->data_lock is already a spinlock.
>
> Surely we do not want to impede traffic flow just to dump debug info?

I don't see data_lock being used anywhere in hotpath, but of course I
might have missed something. Anyway, if for optimisation reasons we need
to introduce a new lock that should happen for a specific case in hot
path. Handling firmware debug log events is not in that category.

> And, it is easier to review a specific spinlock rather than use one big
> global-ish lock and have to review every use of that lock for issues.

Sure, it's easier for you to just add a new lock and then forget :) But
not for me who would have to maintain 20 different locks for years to
come. My view is that a new lock should be added on very exceptional
cases and with good justifications.

-- 
Kalle Valo

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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ath10k:  provide firmware crash info via debugfs.
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 11:28:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877g4riz3w.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <539330A1.9050307@candelatech.com> (Ben Greear's message of "Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:32:49 -0700")

Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:

> On 06/07/2014 05:55 AM, Kalle Valo wrote:
>> Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
>>
>>>>> I'm a bit leery of adding spin-locks in the dump routine just for
>>>>> this, but I can add and use a new spin-lock if you prefer.
>>>>
>>>> Why a new spinlock? I didn't review the locking requirements, but I
>>>> would first check ar->data_lock can be used.
>>>
>>> I think it has to be a spin-lock because the crash dump is gathered
>>> in the irq handler, so I can't use a mutex as far as I know...
>>>
>>> I'll work on adding such a lock today.
>>
>> I asked why add a _new_ spinlock as ar->data_lock is already a spinlock.
>
> Surely we do not want to impede traffic flow just to dump debug info?

I don't see data_lock being used anywhere in hotpath, but of course I
might have missed something. Anyway, if for optimisation reasons we need
to introduce a new lock that should happen for a specific case in hot
path. Handling firmware debug log events is not in that category.

> And, it is easier to review a specific spinlock rather than use one big
> global-ish lock and have to review every use of that lock for issues.

Sure, it's easier for you to just add a new lock and then forget :) But
not for me who would have to maintain 20 different locks for years to
come. My view is that a new lock should be added on very exceptional
cases and with good justifications.

-- 
Kalle Valo

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-08  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-04 18:01 [PATCH 1/4] ath10k: provide firmware crash info via debugfs greearb
2014-06-04 18:01 ` greearb
2014-06-04 18:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] ath10k: save firmware debug log messages greearb
2014-06-04 18:01   ` greearb
2014-06-04 18:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] ath10k: save firmware stack upon firmware crash greearb
2014-06-04 18:01   ` greearb
2014-06-04 18:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] ath10k: Dump exception stack contents on " greearb
2014-06-04 18:01   ` greearb
2014-06-05 16:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] ath10k: provide firmware crash info via debugfs Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 16:18   ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-05 18:25   ` Ben Greear
2014-06-05 18:25     ` Ben Greear
2014-06-06  6:10     ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06  6:10       ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06  6:30       ` Michal Kazior
2014-06-06  6:30         ` Michal Kazior
2014-06-06  8:55         ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06  8:55           ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06  9:45           ` Michal Kazior
2014-06-06  9:45             ` Michal Kazior
2014-06-06 16:11       ` Ben Greear
2014-06-06 16:11         ` Ben Greear
2014-06-07 12:55         ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-07 12:55           ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-07 15:32           ` Ben Greear
2014-06-07 15:32             ` Ben Greear
2014-06-08  8:28             ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2014-06-08  8:28               ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-08 15:40               ` Ben Greear
2014-06-08 15:40                 ` Ben Greear
2014-06-06  6:55 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06  6:55   ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06 16:01   ` Ben Greear
2014-06-06 16:01     ` Ben Greear
2014-06-07 12:50     ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-07 12:50       ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06  9:33 ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06  9:33   ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-06 17:06   ` Ben Greear
2014-06-06 17:06     ` Ben Greear
2014-06-07 12:57     ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-07 12:57       ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-07 15:29       ` Ben Greear
2014-06-07 15:29         ` Ben Greear
2014-06-08  8:12         ` Kalle Valo
2014-06-08  8:12           ` Kalle Valo

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