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From: Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@gmail.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add Kconfig option for default swappiness
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:13:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878w19bx2c.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011021235130.21387@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT), David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Ben Gamari wrote:
> > Packaging concerns, as I mentioned before,
> 
> That you snipped from the changelog?
> 
Guilty as charged. Sorry about that, time has been in short supply
recently.

> You could say the same thing for any sysctl, it's not indicative of why 
> this particular change is needed in the kernel.
> 
This is certainly true; a distribution could in principle want to tweak
the default values of any of the sysctl knobs. If we wanted to tweak
anything else in addition to swappiness that I wouldn't have even
bothered to submit the patch since I'll be the first to admit that the
precedent set by further growing the Kconfig phase space is not a
positive one. That being said, swappiness is one of the more significant
knobs in the vm and certainly one of the more likely to be tuned by a
distribution.

> Let's not have the "in short" answer, what's the "long" answer?

See my recent response to Wu Fengguang.

Cheers,

- Ben

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From: Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@gmail.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add Kconfig option for default swappiness
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:13:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878w19bx2c.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011021235130.21387@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT), David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Ben Gamari wrote:
> > Packaging concerns, as I mentioned before,
> 
> That you snipped from the changelog?
> 
Guilty as charged. Sorry about that, time has been in short supply
recently.

> You could say the same thing for any sysctl, it's not indicative of why 
> this particular change is needed in the kernel.
> 
This is certainly true; a distribution could in principle want to tweak
the default values of any of the sysctl knobs. If we wanted to tweak
anything else in addition to swappiness that I wouldn't have even
bothered to submit the patch since I'll be the first to admit that the
precedent set by further growing the Kconfig phase space is not a
positive one. That being said, swappiness is one of the more significant
knobs in the vm and certainly one of the more likely to be tuned by a
distribution.

> Let's not have the "in short" answer, what's the "long" answer?

See my recent response to Wu Fengguang.

Cheers,

- Ben

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-04  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-02  3:20 [PATCH] Add Kconfig option for default swappiness Ben Gamari
2010-11-02  3:20 ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-02  3:33 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-02  3:33   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-02 12:58   ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-02 12:58     ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-02 14:01     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-02 14:01       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-03 14:33       ` Dave Jones
2010-11-03 14:33         ` Dave Jones
2010-11-04  2:40         ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-04  2:40           ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-04  3:09       ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-04  3:09         ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-02 14:34     ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2010-11-02 14:34       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2010-11-04  2:44       ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-04  2:44         ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-02 19:39     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-02 19:39       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-04  3:13       ` Ben Gamari [this message]
2010-11-04  3:13         ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-02  4:14 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-02  4:14   ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-02  4:27 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-02  4:27   ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-02 12:47   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2010-11-02 12:47     ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa

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