Enabling TV-out with the nouveau driver

Enabling TV-out with the nouveau driver

[Adrian Popa]

Hello everyone,

First of all - congratulations on the success of your project. It was 
about time the community did something about the nvidia drivers! :)

Now, I'm still experimenting with nouveau and I have enabled it on a 
test system that has a rather old Nvidia card (GeForce4 I think) with 
tv-out. Everything works fine, but I haven't been able to find any 
examples on how to configure tv-out so I can extend my desktop to my TV.

Can anyone help with a demo configuration of Xorg.conf?

Also, I want to ask - if there is any chance of using two displays *and* 
enabling compositing (window transparency effects) - either with 
software or hardware acceleration?

By the way, I am using Xubuntu 10.04.

Regards,
Adrian

Re: Enabling TV-out with the nouveau driver

[Francisco Jerez]

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Adrian Popa <adrian_gh.popa-W9Zz3XeOr4Mo9/FJvwSGXQ@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Hello everyone,
>
> First of all - congratulations on the success of your project. It was
> about time the community did something about the nvidia drivers! :)
>
> Now, I'm still experimenting with nouveau and I have enabled it on a
> test system that has a rather old Nvidia card (GeForce4 I think) with
> tv-out. Everything works fine, but I haven't been able to find any
> examples on how to configure tv-out so I can extend my desktop to my
> TV.

Which card exactly? nv1x-based gf4 cards should be fine but nv2x GPUs
need an external TV encoder chip (and right now we only have a driver
for ch7006 and similar external encoders). So, if your card has one of
the supported encoders, you'll see a "TV-1" connector in the output of
"xrandr".

>
> Can anyone help with a demo configuration of Xorg.conf?
>
It's configured as a regular RandR12 output, so it should just work with
the minimal xorg.conf [1], if you need to do something fancier like
changing the relative output positions or setting TV-specific
properties, see [2] and [3] (check out the TV-related kernel module
parameters too, see "modinfo nouveau").

> Also, I want to ask - if there is any chance of using two displays
> *and* enabling compositing (window transparency effects) - either with
> software or hardware acceleration?

It should work, but keep in mind that nv1x cards have a rather crude
pitch limitation (you'll get no hw accel if your desktop is larger than
2048x2048).

>
> By the way, I am using Xubuntu 10.04.
>
> Regards,
> Adrian
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[1] http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/InstallNouveau
[2] http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Randr12
[3] http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12

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Re: Enabling TV-out with the nouveau driver

[Adrian Popa]

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Hello,

I've checked and i have a GeForce 4 MX 440, and i do see a TV-1 in 
xrandr but I didn't manage to configure it with xrandr.

I've looked over [2] and by using *xrandr --output TV-1 --right-of 
VGA-1* i managed to extend my desktop to my TV. Also, i see the window 
transparency effect keeps working ;)

The problem is  - I tried to configure xorg.conf but I didn't manage to 
add the displays side by side (the TV overlaps with the monitor from the 
top-left corner), even if they have different resolutions. I have 
attached my xorg.conf for reference. I realize I must be missing 
something trivial in the configuration. Anyone care to point it out?

Thanks,
Adrian


On 06/10/2010 01:37 PM, Francisco Jerez wrote:
> Adrian Popa<adrian_gh.popa-W9Zz3XeOr4Mo9/FJvwSGXQ@public.gmane.org>  writes:
>
>    
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> First of all - congratulations on the success of your project. It was
>> about time the community did something about the nvidia drivers! :)
>>
>> Now, I'm still experimenting with nouveau and I have enabled it on a
>> test system that has a rather old Nvidia card (GeForce4 I think) with
>> tv-out. Everything works fine, but I haven't been able to find any
>> examples on how to configure tv-out so I can extend my desktop to my
>> TV.
>>      
> Which card exactly? nv1x-based gf4 cards should be fine but nv2x GPUs
> need an external TV encoder chip (and right now we only have a driver
> for ch7006 and similar external encoders). So, if your card has one of
> the supported encoders, you'll see a "TV-1" connector in the output of
> "xrandr".
>
>    
>> Can anyone help with a demo configuration of Xorg.conf?
>>
>>      
> It's configured as a regular RandR12 output, so it should just work with
> the minimal xorg.conf [1], if you need to do something fancier like
> changing the relative output positions or setting TV-specific
> properties, see [2] and [3] (check out the TV-related kernel module
> parameters too, see "modinfo nouveau").
>
>    
>> Also, I want to ask - if there is any chance of using two displays
>> *and* enabling compositing (window transparency effects) - either with
>> software or hardware acceleration?
>>      
> It should work, but keep in mind that nv1x cards have a rather crude
> pitch limitation (you'll get no hw accel if your desktop is larger than
> 2048x2048).
>
>    
>> By the way, I am using Xubuntu 10.04.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrian
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org
>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/nouveau
>>      
> [1] http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/InstallNouveau
> [2] http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Randr12
> [3] http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
>    


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Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
	FontPath     "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
	FontPath     "built-ins"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "dri2"
	Load  "dri"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "dbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	DisplaySize	  340   270	# mm
	Identifier   "VGA-1"
	VendorName   "NEC"
	ModelName    "LCD72VM"
	HorizSync    31.0 - 81.0
	VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
	Option	    "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "TV-1" 
        HorizSync    30-50
	VertRefresh  60
	Option "RightOf" "Monitor0"
	# 720x576 @ 50Hz, 31.25kHz, itu-r bt.1358 625/50/p/1:1, RGB, YPbPr, HDMI
	ModeLine "720x576@50"  27     720 732 795 864  576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync
	# nonstandard PAL (Works with BOB deinterlace) It is 60Hz but works well with nVIDIA PAL-B TV-OUT
	# Nvidia option: Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
	ModeLine "720x576@60" 32.7  720 744 816 912  576 577 580 597

	# This modeline is 50Hz interlaced and works well with kerneldeint:
	ModeLine "720x576i" 13.875  720 744 808 888  576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync interlace
	
EndSection	
Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "HWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ShadowFB"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "UseFBDev"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "Rotate"             	# [<str>]
        #Option     "VideoKey"           	# <i>
        #Option     "FlatPanel"          	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "FPDither"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "CrtcNumber"         	# <i>
        #Option     "FPScale"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "FPTweak"            	# <i>
        #Option     "DualHead"   "True"        	# [<bool>]
	Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "nouveau"
	VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
	BoardName   "NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]"
	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
	Option	    "Monitor-VGA-1" "VGA-1"
	Option	    "Monitor-TV-1" "TV-1"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	#Monitor    "Monitor0"
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     1
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     4
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     8
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     15
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     16
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
	EndSubSection
EndSection


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Re: Enabling TV-out with the nouveau driver

[Francisco Jerez]

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Hi,

Adrian Popa <adrian_gh.popa-W9Zz3XeOr4Mo9/FJvwSGXQ@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I've checked and i have a GeForce 4 MX 440, and i do see a TV-1 in xrandr but I didn't manage to configure it
> with xrandr.
>
> I've looked over [2] and by using xrandr --output TV-1 --right-of VGA-1 i managed to extend my desktop to my
> TV. Also, i see the window transparency effect keeps working ;)
>
> The problem is  - I tried to configure xorg.conf but I didn't manage to add the displays side by side (the TV
> overlaps with the monitor from the top-left corner), even if they have different resolutions. I have attached
> my xorg.conf for reference. I realize I must be missing something trivial in the configuration. Anyone care to
> point it out?
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
> 	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
> 	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
> 	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> 	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
> 	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
> 	FontPath     "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
> 	FontPath     "built-ins"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
> 	Load  "record"
> 	Load  "dri2"
> 	Load  "dri"
> 	Load  "glx"
> 	Load  "extmod"
> 	Load  "dbe"
> EndSection
> 
You probably don't need any of the last two sections.

> Section "InputDevice"
> 	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> 	Driver      "kbd"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> 	Identifier  "Mouse0"
> 	Driver      "mouse"
> 	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
> 	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> 	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> 	Identifier   "VGA-1"

> 	DisplaySize	  340   270	# mm
> 	VendorName   "NEC"
> 	ModelName    "LCD72VM"
> 	HorizSync    31.0 - 81.0
> 	VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
> 	Option	    "DPMS"
You shouldn't need any of the options above.

> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> 	Identifier   "TV-1" 
> 	Option "RightOf" "Monitor0"
The "Monitor0" identifier is wrong, I guess you meant "VGA-1".

>         HorizSync    30-50
> 	VertRefresh  60
> 	# 720x576 @ 50Hz, 31.25kHz, itu-r bt.1358 625/50/p/1:1, RGB, YPbPr, HDMI
> 	ModeLine "720x576@50"  27     720 732 795 864  576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync
> 	# nonstandard PAL (Works with BOB deinterlace) It is 60Hz but works well with nVIDIA PAL-B TV-OUT
> 	# Nvidia option: Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
> 	ModeLine "720x576@60" 32.7  720 744 816 912  576 577 580 597
> 
> 	# This modeline is 50Hz interlaced and works well with kerneldeint:
> 	ModeLine "720x576i" 13.875  720 744 808 888  576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync interlace
> 	
You shouldn't need to set any timings manually.

> EndSection	
> Section "Device"
>         ### Available Driver options are:-
>         ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
>         ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
>         ### [arg]: arg optional
>         #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
>         #Option     "HWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
>         #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
>         #Option     "ShadowFB"           	# [<bool>]
>         #Option     "UseFBDev"           	# [<bool>]
>         #Option     "Rotate"             	# [<str>]
>         #Option     "VideoKey"           	# <i>
>         #Option     "FlatPanel"          	# [<bool>]
>         #Option     "FPDither"           	# [<bool>]
>         #Option     "CrtcNumber"         	# <i>
>         #Option     "FPScale"            	# [<bool>]
>         #Option     "FPTweak"            	# <i>
>         #Option     "DualHead"   "True"        	# [<bool>]
> 	Identifier  "Card0"
> 	Driver      "nouveau"
> 	VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
> 	BoardName   "NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]"
> 	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
> 	Option	    "Monitor-VGA-1" "VGA-1"
> 	Option	    "Monitor-TV-1" "TV-1"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> 	Identifier "Screen0"
> 	Device     "Card0"
> 	#Monitor    "Monitor0"
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     1
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     4
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     8
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     15
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     16
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     24
> 	EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 

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Re: Enabling TV-out with the nouveau driver

[Adrian Popa]

Hello Francisco,

You were right - the monitor name was wrong in that section. I replaced 
Monitor0 with VGA-1 and it worked just fine. Thank you a lot for your help!

Regards,
Adrian

On 06/11/2010 12:43 PM, Francisco Jerez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Adrian Popa<adrian_gh.popa-W9Zz3XeOr4Mo9/FJvwSGXQ@public.gmane.org>  writes:
>
>    
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've checked and i have a GeForce 4 MX 440, and i do see a TV-1 in xrandr but I didn't manage to configure it
>> with xrandr.
>>
>> I've looked over [2] and by using xrandr --output TV-1 --right-of VGA-1 i managed to extend my desktop to my
>> TV. Also, i see the window transparency effect keeps working ;)
>>
>> The problem is  - I tried to configure xorg.conf but I didn't manage to add the displays side by side (the TV
>> overlaps with the monitor from the top-left corner), even if they have different resolutions. I have attached
>> my xorg.conf for reference. I realize I must be missing something trivial in the configuration. Anyone care to
>> point it out?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adrian
>>
>> Section "ServerLayout"
>> 	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>> 	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>> 	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>> 	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Files"
>> 	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
>> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
>> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
>> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
>> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
>> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
>> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
>> 	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
>> 	FontPath     "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
>> 	FontPath     "built-ins"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Module"
>> 	Load  "record"
>> 	Load  "dri2"
>> 	Load  "dri"
>> 	Load  "glx"
>> 	Load  "extmod"
>> 	Load  "dbe"
>> EndSection
>>
>>      
> You probably don't need any of the last two sections.
>
>    
>> Section "InputDevice"
>> 	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>> 	Driver      "kbd"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "InputDevice"
>> 	Identifier  "Mouse0"
>> 	Driver      "mouse"
>> 	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
>> 	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
>> 	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Monitor"
>> 	Identifier   "VGA-1"
>>      
>    
>> 	DisplaySize	  340   270	# mm
>> 	VendorName   "NEC"
>> 	ModelName    "LCD72VM"
>> 	HorizSync    31.0 - 81.0
>> 	VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
>> 	Option	    "DPMS"
>>      
> You shouldn't need any of the options above.
>
>    
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Monitor"
>> 	Identifier   "TV-1"
>> 	Option "RightOf" "Monitor0"
>>      
> The "Monitor0" identifier is wrong, I guess you meant "VGA-1".
>
>    
>>          HorizSync    30-50
>> 	VertRefresh  60
>> 	# 720x576 @ 50Hz, 31.25kHz, itu-r bt.1358 625/50/p/1:1, RGB, YPbPr, HDMI
>> 	ModeLine "720x576@50"  27     720 732 795 864  576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync
>> 	# nonstandard PAL (Works with BOB deinterlace) It is 60Hz but works well with nVIDIA PAL-B TV-OUT
>> 	# Nvidia option: Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
>> 	ModeLine "720x576@60" 32.7  720 744 816 912  576 577 580 597
>>
>> 	# This modeline is 50Hz interlaced and works well with kerneldeint:
>> 	ModeLine "720x576i" 13.875  720 744 808 888  576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync interlace
>> 	
>>      
> You shouldn't need to set any timings manually.
>
>    
>> EndSection	
>> Section "Device"
>>          ### Available Driver options are:-
>>          ### Values:<i>: integer,<f>: float,<bool>: "True"/"False",
>>          ###<string>: "String",<freq>: "<f>  Hz/kHz/MHz"
>>          ### [arg]: arg optional
>>          #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
>>          #Option     "HWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
>>          #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
>>          #Option     "ShadowFB"           	# [<bool>]
>>          #Option     "UseFBDev"           	# [<bool>]
>>          #Option     "Rotate"             	# [<str>]
>>          #Option     "VideoKey"           	#<i>
>>          #Option     "FlatPanel"          	# [<bool>]
>>          #Option     "FPDither"           	# [<bool>]
>>          #Option     "CrtcNumber"         	#<i>
>>          #Option     "FPScale"            	# [<bool>]
>>          #Option     "FPTweak"            	#<i>
>>          #Option     "DualHead"   "True"        	# [<bool>]
>> 	Identifier  "Card0"
>> 	Driver      "nouveau"
>> 	VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
>> 	BoardName   "NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]"
>> 	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
>> 	Option	    "Monitor-VGA-1" "VGA-1"
>> 	Option	    "Monitor-TV-1" "TV-1"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Screen"
>> 	Identifier "Screen0"
>> 	Device     "Card0"
>> 	#Monitor    "Monitor0"
>> 	SubSection "Display"
>> 		Viewport   0 0
>> 		Depth     1
>> 	EndSubSection
>> 	SubSection "Display"
>> 		Viewport   0 0
>> 		Depth     4
>> 	EndSubSection
>> 	SubSection "Display"
>> 		Viewport   0 0
>> 		Depth     8
>> 	EndSubSection
>> 	SubSection "Display"
>> 		Viewport   0 0
>> 		Depth     15
>> 	EndSubSection
>> 	SubSection "Display"
>> 		Viewport   0 0
>> 		Depth     16
>> 	EndSubSection
>> 	SubSection "Display"
>> 		Viewport   0 0
>> 		Depth     24
>> 	EndSubSection
>> EndSection
>>
>>      


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Network Engineer
Divizia Centrul National de Operare Retea
Departament Transport IP&  Metro
Compartiment IP Core&  Backbone
Phone: +40 21 400 3099