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From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>
To: Javier Martinez Canillas <javier.martinez@collabora.co.uk>
Cc: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@samsung.com>,
	Sachin Kamat <sachin.kamat@samsung.com>,
	Tomasz Figa <t.figa@samsung.com>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 1/1] ARM: exynos_defconfig: Enable SBS battery support
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:28:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87990175.pWuoYNXuLf@amdc1032> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53E8EDE5.4000807@collabora.co.uk>


Hi,

On Monday, August 11, 2014 06:23:01 PM Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 08/11/2014 05:59 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > Bartlomiej,
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
> > <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Monday, August 11, 2014 02:52:27 PM Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> >>> Hello Bartlomiej,
> >>>
> >>> On 08/11/2014 02:40 PM, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> >>> >> index fc7d168..c390bb9 100644
> >>> >> --- a/arch/arm/configs/exynos_defconfig
> >>> >> +++ b/arch/arm/configs/exynos_defconfig
> >>> >> @@ -77,6 +77,7 @@ CONFIG_SPI_S3C64XX=y
> >>> >>  CONFIG_I2C_S3C2410=y
> >>> >>  CONFIG_DEBUG_GPIO=y
> >>> >>  CONFIG_POWER_SUPPLY=y
> >>> >> +CONFIG_BATTERY_SBS=m
> >>> >
> >>> > Why not make it "=y"?
> >>> >
> >>> > Rationale:
> >>> > - currently no hardware related option uses "=m" in exynos_defconfig
> >>> > - it would match the SBS option usage in multi_v7_defconfig
> >>> >
> >>> >>  CONFIG_CHARGER_TPS65090=y
> >>> >>  # CONFIG_HWMON is not set
> >>> >>  CONFIG_THERMAL=y
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> I know but personally I think this should be changed. The idea of having a multi
> >>> platform kernel is to build a single kernel image that can be used to boot
> >>> different platforms. Not all platforms have a SBS-compliant battery so this
> >>> support shouldn't be built in the kernel image IMHO.
> >>>
> >>> This also matches to what real users will do since distributions most likely
> >>> will have a minimal kernel and every possible hardware support will be enabled
> >>> as a loadable kernel module. This is what distros do for other platforms too.
> >>>
> >>> If someone has a different use case and wants a kernel image that is optimized
> >>> for a particular platform then she has to create its own defconfig anyways.
> >>
> >> Distributions usually use their own configs anyway and the current most
> >> popular use case for exynos_defconfig (not multi_v7_defconfig) seems to
> >> be to build kernel image alone and use it without any modules:
> >>
> >> $ grep "=m" arch/arm/configs/exynos_defconfig
> >> CONFIG_DM_CRYPT=m
> >>
> >> $ grep "=m" .config
> >> CONFIG_NET_IP_TUNNEL=m
> >> CONFIG_INET_TUNNEL=m
> >> CONFIG_IPV6=m
> >> CONFIG_INET6_XFRM_MODE_TRANSPORT=m
> >> CONFIG_INET6_XFRM_MODE_TUNNEL=m
> >> CONFIG_INET6_XFRM_MODE_BEET=m
> >> CONFIG_IPV6_SIT=m
> >> CONFIG_DM_CRYPT=m
> >> CONFIG_CRYPTO_RNG=m
> >> CONFIG_CRYPTO_ANSI_CPRNG=m
> >>
> >> What I'm trying to say is that there is a high probability that people
> >> will continue to use just the kernel image for exynos_defconfig and
> >> will therefore miss SBS battery support altogether (which is only 3.6
> >> kB of code more in the kernel image so there is no much gain in making
> >> it modular currently).
> > 
> > I'm not against making it =y for exynos_defconfig.  I do pretty
> > strongly agree that the multi_v7 version should be =m eventually,
> > though.  We'd need to do everything we can to make that kernel
> > smaller.
> >
> 
> Same for me. I don't have such a strong opinion about this so if you think that
> I should re-spin to change to =m, I will.
> 
> I do think that we should try to keep the delta between exynos_defconfig and
> multi_v7_defconfig as small as possible and eventually even get rid of
> exynos_defconfig. Since building everything as built-in and having a config

I completely agree.  I proposed exynos_defconfig removal as soon as
Exynos gained multiplatform support (and before exynos_defconfig
started getting out-of-sync with multi_v7_defconfig).  There were
arguments that it is still useful in some cases.  I think that if
it would be possible to go from a modular multi_v7_defconfig to
a modular/built-in single platform config (using a script?) all
such use cases will be covered.

> targeted to a single platform is not aligned with the effort to have support for
> multi platforms kernels.

Currently even for multi_v7_defconfig "=m" seems to be an exception
from the general rule:

$ grep "=m" arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig 
CONFIG_INET6_AH=m
CONFIG_INET6_ESP=m
CONFIG_INET6_IPCOMP=m
CONFIG_IPV6_MIP6=m
CONFIG_IPV6_TUNNEL=m
CONFIG_CFG80211=m
CONFIG_MAC80211=m
CONFIG_BRCMFMAC=m
CONFIG_RT2X00=m
CONFIG_RT2800USB=m

$ wc -l arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig 
405 arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig

so I would vote for CONFIG_BATTERY_SBS=y for both configs.  Especially
since it results in only 3.6 kB bigger kernel image (0.05% kernel size
increase for kernel image built with exynos_defconfig, probably a lot
less for multi_v7_defconfig one).

Best regards,
--
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
Samsung R&D Institute Poland
Samsung Electronics

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: b.zolnierkie@samsung.com (Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RESEND PATCH 1/1] ARM: exynos_defconfig: Enable SBS battery support
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:28:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87990175.pWuoYNXuLf@amdc1032> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53E8EDE5.4000807@collabora.co.uk>


Hi,

On Monday, August 11, 2014 06:23:01 PM Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 08/11/2014 05:59 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > Bartlomiej,
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
> > <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Monday, August 11, 2014 02:52:27 PM Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> >>> Hello Bartlomiej,
> >>>
> >>> On 08/11/2014 02:40 PM, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> >>> >> index fc7d168..c390bb9 100644
> >>> >> --- a/arch/arm/configs/exynos_defconfig
> >>> >> +++ b/arch/arm/configs/exynos_defconfig
> >>> >> @@ -77,6 +77,7 @@ CONFIG_SPI_S3C64XX=y
> >>> >>  CONFIG_I2C_S3C2410=y
> >>> >>  CONFIG_DEBUG_GPIO=y
> >>> >>  CONFIG_POWER_SUPPLY=y
> >>> >> +CONFIG_BATTERY_SBS=m
> >>> >
> >>> > Why not make it "=y"?
> >>> >
> >>> > Rationale:
> >>> > - currently no hardware related option uses "=m" in exynos_defconfig
> >>> > - it would match the SBS option usage in multi_v7_defconfig
> >>> >
> >>> >>  CONFIG_CHARGER_TPS65090=y
> >>> >>  # CONFIG_HWMON is not set
> >>> >>  CONFIG_THERMAL=y
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> I know but personally I think this should be changed. The idea of having a multi
> >>> platform kernel is to build a single kernel image that can be used to boot
> >>> different platforms. Not all platforms have a SBS-compliant battery so this
> >>> support shouldn't be built in the kernel image IMHO.
> >>>
> >>> This also matches to what real users will do since distributions most likely
> >>> will have a minimal kernel and every possible hardware support will be enabled
> >>> as a loadable kernel module. This is what distros do for other platforms too.
> >>>
> >>> If someone has a different use case and wants a kernel image that is optimized
> >>> for a particular platform then she has to create its own defconfig anyways.
> >>
> >> Distributions usually use their own configs anyway and the current most
> >> popular use case for exynos_defconfig (not multi_v7_defconfig) seems to
> >> be to build kernel image alone and use it without any modules:
> >>
> >> $ grep "=m" arch/arm/configs/exynos_defconfig
> >> CONFIG_DM_CRYPT=m
> >>
> >> $ grep "=m" .config
> >> CONFIG_NET_IP_TUNNEL=m
> >> CONFIG_INET_TUNNEL=m
> >> CONFIG_IPV6=m
> >> CONFIG_INET6_XFRM_MODE_TRANSPORT=m
> >> CONFIG_INET6_XFRM_MODE_TUNNEL=m
> >> CONFIG_INET6_XFRM_MODE_BEET=m
> >> CONFIG_IPV6_SIT=m
> >> CONFIG_DM_CRYPT=m
> >> CONFIG_CRYPTO_RNG=m
> >> CONFIG_CRYPTO_ANSI_CPRNG=m
> >>
> >> What I'm trying to say is that there is a high probability that people
> >> will continue to use just the kernel image for exynos_defconfig and
> >> will therefore miss SBS battery support altogether (which is only 3.6
> >> kB of code more in the kernel image so there is no much gain in making
> >> it modular currently).
> > 
> > I'm not against making it =y for exynos_defconfig.  I do pretty
> > strongly agree that the multi_v7 version should be =m eventually,
> > though.  We'd need to do everything we can to make that kernel
> > smaller.
> >
> 
> Same for me. I don't have such a strong opinion about this so if you think that
> I should re-spin to change to =m, I will.
> 
> I do think that we should try to keep the delta between exynos_defconfig and
> multi_v7_defconfig as small as possible and eventually even get rid of
> exynos_defconfig. Since building everything as built-in and having a config

I completely agree.  I proposed exynos_defconfig removal as soon as
Exynos gained multiplatform support (and before exynos_defconfig
started getting out-of-sync with multi_v7_defconfig).  There were
arguments that it is still useful in some cases.  I think that if
it would be possible to go from a modular multi_v7_defconfig to
a modular/built-in single platform config (using a script?) all
such use cases will be covered.

> targeted to a single platform is not aligned with the effort to have support for
> multi platforms kernels.

Currently even for multi_v7_defconfig "=m" seems to be an exception
from the general rule:

$ grep "=m" arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig 
CONFIG_INET6_AH=m
CONFIG_INET6_ESP=m
CONFIG_INET6_IPCOMP=m
CONFIG_IPV6_MIP6=m
CONFIG_IPV6_TUNNEL=m
CONFIG_CFG80211=m
CONFIG_MAC80211=m
CONFIG_BRCMFMAC=m
CONFIG_RT2X00=m
CONFIG_RT2800USB=m

$ wc -l arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig 
405 arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig

so I would vote for CONFIG_BATTERY_SBS=y for both configs.  Especially
since it results in only 3.6 kB bigger kernel image (0.05% kernel size
increase for kernel image built with exynos_defconfig, probably a lot
less for multi_v7_defconfig one).

Best regards,
--
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
Samsung R&D Institute Poland
Samsung Electronics

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-11 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-11 11:06 [RESEND PATCH 1/1] ARM: exynos_defconfig: Enable SBS battery support Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-08-11 11:06 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-08-11 12:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-08-11 12:40   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-08-11 12:52   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-08-11 12:52     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-08-11 15:42     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-08-11 15:42       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-08-11 15:59       ` Doug Anderson
2014-08-11 15:59         ` Doug Anderson
2014-08-11 16:23         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-08-11 16:23           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-08-11 17:28           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2014-08-11 17:28             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-08-11 17:36             ` Doug Anderson
2014-08-11 17:36               ` Doug Anderson
2014-08-11 17:38             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-08-11 17:38               ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-08-11 15:13 ` Doug Anderson
2014-08-11 15:13   ` Doug Anderson

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