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From: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Torsten Duwe <duwe@lst.de>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] powerpc/64s: Clear on-stack exception marker upon exception return
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:18:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7jirrn6.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tvhqpbzd.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> (Michael Ellerman's message of "Wed, 30 Jan 2019 23:27:02 +1100")

Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> writes:

> Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com> writes:
>> From: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>
>>
>> The ppc64 specific implementation of the reliable stacktracer,
>> save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable(), bails out and reports an "unreliable
>> trace" whenever it finds an exception frame on the stack. Stack frames
>> are classified as exception frames if the STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER magic,
>> as written by exception prologues, is found at a particular location.
>>
>> However, as observed by Joe Lawrence, it is possible in practice that
>> non-exception stack frames can alias with prior exception frames and thus,
>> that the reliable stacktracer can find a stale STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER on
>> the stack. It in turn falsely reports an unreliable stacktrace and blocks
>> any live patching transition to finish. Said condition lasts until the
>> stack frame is overwritten/initialized by function call or other means.
>>
>> In principle, we could mitigate this by making the exception frame
>> classification condition in save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable() stronger:
>> in addition to testing for STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER, we could also take into
>> account that for all exceptions executing on the kernel stack
>> - their stack frames's backlink pointers always match what is saved
>>   in their pt_regs instance's ->gpr[1] slot and that
>> - their exception frame size equals STACK_INT_FRAME_SIZE, a value
>>   uncommonly large for non-exception frames.
>>
>> However, while these are currently true, relying on them would make the
>> reliable stacktrace implementation more sensitive towards future changes in
>> the exception entry code. Note that false negatives, i.e. not detecting
>> exception frames, would silently break the live patching consistency model.
>>
>> Furthermore, certain other places (diagnostic stacktraces, perf, xmon)
>> rely on STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER as well.
>>
>> Make the exception exit code clear the on-stack STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER
>> for those exceptions running on the "normal" kernel stack and returning
>> to kernelspace: because the topmost frame is ignored by the reliable stack
>> tracer anyway, returns to userspace don't need to take care of clearing
>> the marker.
>>
>> Furthermore, as I don't have the ability to test this on Book 3E or
>> 32 bits, limit the change to Book 3S and 64 bits.
>>
>> Finally, make the HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE Kconfig option depend on
>> PPC_BOOK3S_64 for documentation purposes. Before this patch, it depended
>> on PPC64 && CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN and because CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN implies
>> PPC_BOOK3S_64, there's no functional change here.
>
> That has nothing to do with the fix and should really be in a separate
> patch.
>
> I can split it when applying.

If you don't mind, that would be nice! Or simply drop that
chunk... Otherwise, let me know if I shall send a split v2 for this
patch [1/4] only.

Thanks,

Nicolai

-- 
SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton,
HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)

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From: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>, Torsten Duwe <duwe@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] powerpc/64s: Clear on-stack exception marker upon exception return
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:18:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7jirrn6.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tvhqpbzd.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> (Michael Ellerman's message of "Wed, 30 Jan 2019 23:27:02 +1100")

Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> writes:

> Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com> writes:
>> From: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>
>>
>> The ppc64 specific implementation of the reliable stacktracer,
>> save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable(), bails out and reports an "unreliable
>> trace" whenever it finds an exception frame on the stack. Stack frames
>> are classified as exception frames if the STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER magic,
>> as written by exception prologues, is found at a particular location.
>>
>> However, as observed by Joe Lawrence, it is possible in practice that
>> non-exception stack frames can alias with prior exception frames and thus,
>> that the reliable stacktracer can find a stale STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER on
>> the stack. It in turn falsely reports an unreliable stacktrace and blocks
>> any live patching transition to finish. Said condition lasts until the
>> stack frame is overwritten/initialized by function call or other means.
>>
>> In principle, we could mitigate this by making the exception frame
>> classification condition in save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable() stronger:
>> in addition to testing for STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER, we could also take into
>> account that for all exceptions executing on the kernel stack
>> - their stack frames's backlink pointers always match what is saved
>>   in their pt_regs instance's ->gpr[1] slot and that
>> - their exception frame size equals STACK_INT_FRAME_SIZE, a value
>>   uncommonly large for non-exception frames.
>>
>> However, while these are currently true, relying on them would make the
>> reliable stacktrace implementation more sensitive towards future changes in
>> the exception entry code. Note that false negatives, i.e. not detecting
>> exception frames, would silently break the live patching consistency model.
>>
>> Furthermore, certain other places (diagnostic stacktraces, perf, xmon)
>> rely on STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER as well.
>>
>> Make the exception exit code clear the on-stack STACK_FRAME_REGS_MARKER
>> for those exceptions running on the "normal" kernel stack and returning
>> to kernelspace: because the topmost frame is ignored by the reliable stack
>> tracer anyway, returns to userspace don't need to take care of clearing
>> the marker.
>>
>> Furthermore, as I don't have the ability to test this on Book 3E or
>> 32 bits, limit the change to Book 3S and 64 bits.
>>
>> Finally, make the HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE Kconfig option depend on
>> PPC_BOOK3S_64 for documentation purposes. Before this patch, it depended
>> on PPC64 && CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN and because CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN implies
>> PPC_BOOK3S_64, there's no functional change here.
>
> That has nothing to do with the fix and should really be in a separate
> patch.
>
> I can split it when applying.

If you don't mind, that would be nice! Or simply drop that
chunk... Otherwise, let me know if I shall send a split v2 for this
patch [1/4] only.

Thanks,

Nicolai

-- 
SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton,
HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-30 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-22 15:57 [PATCH 0/4] powerpc/livepatch: reliable stack unwinder fixes Joe Lawrence
2019-01-22 15:57 ` Joe Lawrence
2019-01-22 15:57 ` [PATCH 1/4] powerpc/64s: Clear on-stack exception marker upon exception return Joe Lawrence
2019-01-22 15:57   ` Joe Lawrence
2019-01-30 12:27   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-30 12:27     ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-30 17:18     ` Nicolai Stange [this message]
2019-01-30 17:18       ` Nicolai Stange
2019-01-31  5:46       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-31  5:46         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-02-02  1:14   ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-02  1:14     ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-02  3:42     ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-02  3:42       ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-05 11:24       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-02-05 11:24         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-02-06  2:48         ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-06  2:48           ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-06  4:44           ` Michael Ellerman
2019-02-06  4:44             ` Michael Ellerman
2019-02-06  8:45             ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-06  8:45               ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-08 13:02   ` [1/4] " Michael Ellerman
2019-02-08 13:02     ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-22 15:57 ` [PATCH 2/4] powerpc/livepatch: relax reliable stack tracer checks for first-frame Joe Lawrence
2019-01-22 15:57   ` Joe Lawrence
2019-01-22 15:57 ` [PATCH 3/4] powerpc/livepatch: small cleanups in save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable() Joe Lawrence
2019-01-22 15:57   ` Joe Lawrence
2019-01-22 15:57 ` [PATCH 4/4] powerpc/livepatch: return -ERRNO values " Joe Lawrence
2019-01-22 15:57   ` Joe Lawrence
2019-02-02  0:59   ` Balbir Singh
2019-02-02  0:59     ` Balbir Singh
2019-01-29 21:10 ` [PATCH 0/4] powerpc/livepatch: reliable stack unwinder fixes Josh Poimboeuf
2019-01-29 21:10   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-01-29 23:50 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-29 23:50   ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-30 12:22   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-30 12:22     ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-30 13:28     ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-30 13:28       ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31  5:46       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-31  5:46         ` Michael Ellerman

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