From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>
To: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
"Gopinath, Thara" <thara@ti.com>,
"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
"paul@pwsan.com" <paul@pwsan.com>,
"Sripathy, Vishwanath" <vishwanath.bs@ti.com>,
"Sawant, Anand" <sawant@ti.com>,
"Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] OMAP: Introduce a user list for each voltage domain instance in the voltage driver.
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:47:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87aao082bb.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C7F5DB4.70306@ti.com> (Nishanth Menon's message of "Thu, 2 Sep 2010 03:17:56 -0500")
Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com> writes:
> Thomas Petazzoni had written, on 09/02/2010 02:43 AM, the following:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:51:40 -0700
>> Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking closer at this, keeping track of a list of devices and
>>> constraints is what the regulator framework does as well.
>>>
>>> Before we get too far down this path, we need to start working with
>>> Thomas Petazzoni to better understand how we can use the regulator
>>> framework for much of the management levels of the voltage layer.
>>
>> Yes, as discussed on IRC with Kevin, I think that some of this voltage
>> layer mechanisms would benefit from using the existing kernel regulator
>> framework.
>>
>> The regulator framework already keeps tracks of consumers (in your
>> patch set called "vdd users"), and for each consumer, keeps track of
>> the requested voltage. The maximum requested voltage is then applied to
>> the regulator. It seems to fit quite well some of the mechanisms you're
>> introducing in this patch set.
>
> Just brainstorming -> if we use the regulator framework - there are
> potential benefits - agreed. BUT, consider the cpuidle path ->
> currently we disable SR while hitting off/ret for class3, this is done
> in irq locked context while the regulator framework uses locks by
> itself - we would probably have to evolve an entirely different
> mechanism to handle this.
>
> SR by itself can easily be represented I believe and my thoughts when
> i initialy looked at that option had been:
> a) latency overheads
> b) flexibility we achieve vs complexity in s/w implementation
> c) lock handling - esp impact on omap_sram_idle paths..
If you look at the current PM branch (specifically pm-sr), you'll see
that with the updated SR layer, there is no SR enable/disable in the
idle path because there is no voltage scaling during idle.
That being said, even if this is add later, the idle path can potentialy
call the SR API directly if needed for the enable/disable.
The concern Thomas and I are raising is that we don't want to re-invent
regulator framework functionality in the OMAP voltage layer. Rather, we
should keep the OMAP voltage layer as the part that touches the HW, but
use the regulator framework for the higher-level management of users and
constraints.
Performance issues can be addressed as we hit them, but at this level of
the design, I want to make sure the frameworks make sense.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-02 17:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-18 11:19 [PATCH 00/13] OMAP: Basic DVFS framework Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 01/13] OMAP: Introduce a user list for each voltage domain instance in the voltage driver Thara Gopinath
2010-08-27 23:53 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-08-30 22:56 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-16 9:59 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-16 15:20 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-17 14:33 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-01 22:51 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-02 7:43 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2010-09-02 8:17 ` Nishanth Menon
2010-09-02 10:00 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-09-02 10:17 ` Nishanth Menon
2010-09-02 10:28 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-09-02 10:40 ` Nishanth Menon
2010-09-02 11:16 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-09-02 17:47 ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2010-09-02 18:46 ` Nishanth Menon
2010-09-02 18:56 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-03 7:09 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-03 16:41 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-03 17:30 ` Mark Brown
2010-09-03 18:00 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-03 18:20 ` Mark Brown
2010-09-06 19:59 ` Eduardo Valentin
2010-09-06 20:21 ` Liam Girdwood
2010-09-06 21:21 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-23 9:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2010-11-24 9:45 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2010-11-24 9:51 ` Mark Brown
2010-09-03 18:27 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-06 11:01 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 02/13] OMAP: Introduce API in the OPP layer to find the opp entry corresponding to a voltage Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 03/13] OMAP: Introduce voltage domain information in the hwmod structures Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 04/13] OMAP: Introduce API to return a device list associated with a voltage domain Thara Gopinath
2010-08-28 0:52 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-08-28 0:54 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-16 10:04 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-16 15:22 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-17 14:48 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-20 18:00 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-02 0:33 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-16 10:10 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-16 15:23 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 05/13] OMAP: Introduce device specific set rate and get rate in device opp structures Thara Gopinath
2010-09-02 23:41 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-16 10:21 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-16 15:28 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-17 14:55 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-18 10:13 ` Cousson, Benoit
2010-09-20 17:35 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-29 11:16 ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-09-29 20:25 ` Cousson, Benoit
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 06/13] OMAP: Voltage layer changes to support DVFS Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 07/13] OMAP: Introduce dependent voltage domain support Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 08/13] OMAP: Introduce device set_rate and get_rate Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 09/13] OMAP: Disable smartreflex across DVFS Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 10/13] OMAP3: Introduce custom set rate and get rate APIs for scalable devices Thara Gopinath
2010-08-31 0:06 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 11/13] OMAP3: Update cpufreq driver to use the new set_rate API Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 12/13] OMAP3: Introduce voltage domain info in the hwmod structures Thara Gopinath
2010-08-18 11:20 ` [PATCH 13/13] OMAP3: Add voltage dependency table for VDD1 Thara Gopinath
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