From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
"Eric Farman" <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: qemu-system-x86_64 appears to have sgx-epc, but not memory-backend-epc
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 13:16:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bj7vwokb.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_wabjzp0KF69-ay75QoOk=jE-TygrD-T-b60dw1iOs=g@mail.gmail.com> (Peter Maydell's message of "Fri, 23 Oct 2026 11:44:10 +0100")
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 at 11:21, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 02:58:16PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> > My build of qemu-system-x86_64 has device sgx-epc:
>> >
>> > --> {"execute": "qom-list-types", "arguments": {"implements": "sgx-epc"}}
>> > <-- {"return": [{"name": "sgx-epc", "parent": "device"}]}
>> >
>> > The device as a link property to a memory-backend-epc:
>> >
>> > --> {"execute": "qom-list-properties", "arguments": {"typename": "sgx-epc"}}
>> > <-- {"return": [...
>> > {"name": "memdev", "type": "link<memory-backend-epc>"},
>> > ...]}
>> >
>> > However, type memory-backend-epc does not exist:
>
>> There is some rather dubious code that conditionally registers
>> the type
>>
>> static void register_types(void)
>> {
>> int fd = qemu_open_old("/dev/sgx_vepc", O_RDWR);
>> if (fd >= 0) {
>> close(fd);
>>
>> type_register_static(&sgx_epc_backed_info);
>> }
>> }
>>
>>
>> Normal practice is for types to be unconditionally registered. Do we
>> have any examples outside of this SGX case where we conditionally
>> register types ? Should we change this to follow normal practice ?
>
> TYPE_MEMORY_BACKEND_MEMFD does the same. I did a quick grep for
> "calls to type_register not indented by exactly 4 spaces" and
> I think the other cases are "misindented" or "data-driven
> type registration" rather than trying to do things conditionally
> (but I didn't actually look at all of them, instead making
> guesses based on variable names, so maybe there's one or two
> more I missed).
Alright, I looked. In addition to "misindented" or "data-driven", I
found:
* register_types() in hostmem-memfd.c registers "memory-backend-memfd"
only when a test of memfd_create() succeeds. This is what Peter
reported.
* virtio_ccw_gpu_register() in hw/s390x/virtio-ccw-gpu.c registers
"virtio-gpu-ccw" only when have_virtio_ccw, which is true when
hw/s390x/virtio-ccw.c gets compiled into the binary. So it's
effectively compile-time conditional.
I wish it was literally compile-time conditional, either in meson or
using #if.
* qemu_console_early_init() in ui/console-vc.c registers "chardev-vc" if
it's not already registered. early_dbus_init() in ui/dbus.c,
early_gtk_display_init() in ui/gtk.c, and
spice_app_display_early_init() in ui/spice-app.c all register it.
These are all QemuDisplay .early_init() callbacks.
qemu_display_early_init() calls the selected display's .early_init(),
if non-null.
Because qemu_console_early_init() runs after
qemu_display_early_init(), this always registers a "chardev-vc": the
active display may register its own, and when it doesn't, we get
ui/console-vc.c's.
More moving parts than I'd like.
I'm going to post patches for backends/hostmem-{epc,memfd}.c. I don't
plan to clean up the other two at this time.
[...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-11 12:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-22 12:58 qemu-system-x86_64 appears to have sgx-epc, but not memory-backend-epc Markus Armbruster
2026-10-23 10:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-23 10:44 ` Peter Maydell
2026-10-23 11:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-23 11:50 ` Peter Maydell
2026-10-23 12:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-23 12:44 ` Peter Maydell
2026-10-27 6:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-10-27 6:40 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-11-02 11:23 ` Igor Mammedov
2026-11-11 14:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-11-11 12:16 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2026-11-11 12:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-11-11 13:33 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-11-11 14:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-11-11 16:02 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-11-09 14:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-11-12 12:15 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-11-12 15:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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