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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,  David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	 "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	 Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: qemu-system-x86_64 appears to have sgx-epc, but not memory-backend-epc
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2026 15:29:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87qzgu2i45.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ats0_RfeVugAofN9@redhat.com> ("Daniel P. Berrangé"'s message of "Fri, 23 Oct 2026 11:20:45 +0100")

Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 02:58:16PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> My build of qemu-system-x86_64 has device sgx-epc:
>> 
>>  --> {"execute": "qom-list-types", "arguments": {"implements": "sgx-epc"}}
>>  <-- {"return": [{"name": "sgx-epc", "parent": "device"}]}
>> 
>> The device as a link property to a memory-backend-epc:
>> 
>>  --> {"execute": "qom-list-properties", "arguments": {"typename": "sgx-epc"}}
>>  <-- {"return": [...
>>                  {"name": "memdev", "type": "link<memory-backend-epc>"},
>>                  ...]}
>> 
>> However, type memory-backend-epc does not exist:
>> 
>>  --> {"execute": "qom-list-types", "arguments": {"implements": "memory-backend"}}
>>  <-- {"return": [{"name": "memory-backend-ram", "parent": "memory-backend"}, {"name": "memory-backend-file", "parent": "memory-backend"}, {"name": "memory-backend-memfd", "parent": "memory-backend"}, {"name": "memory-backend-shm", "parent": "memory-backend"}]}
>
> There is some rather dubious code that conditionally registers
> the type
>
> static void register_types(void)
> {
>     int fd = qemu_open_old("/dev/sgx_vepc", O_RDWR);
>     if (fd >= 0) {
>         close(fd);
>
>         type_register_static(&sgx_epc_backed_info);
>     }
> }
>
>
> Normal practice is for types to be unconditionally registered.  Do we
> have any examples outside of this SGX case where we conditionally
> register types ?   Should we change this to follow normal practice ?

Loosely related: conditional *class* properties.  Example:

    static void
    memfd_backend_class_init(ObjectClass *oc, const void *data)
    {
        HostMemoryBackendClass *bc = MEMORY_BACKEND_CLASS(oc);

        bc->alloc = memfd_backend_memory_alloc;

        if (qemu_memfd_check(MFD_HUGETLB)) {
            object_class_property_add_bool(oc, "hugetlb",
                                           memfd_backend_get_hugetlb,
                                           memfd_backend_set_hugetlb);
            object_class_property_set_description(oc, "hugetlb",
                                                  "Use huge pages");
            object_class_property_add(oc, "hugetlbsize", "uint64",
                                      &uint64_type_info,
                                      memfd_backend_get_hugetlbsize,
                                      memfd_backend_set_hugetlbsize,
                                      NULL, NULL);
            object_class_property_set_description(oc, "hugetlbsize",
                                                  "Huge pages size (ex: 2M, 1G)");
        }

        [...]
    }

These properties are also declared in qapi/qom.json if CONFIG_LINUX.
QAPI introspection (query-qmp-schema) shows them then.  QOM
introspection (qom-list-properties etc.) only shows them when the
MFD_HUGETLB check succeeded.

Feels undesirable to me.

Should we instead make them read-only when the check fails?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-11-09 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-22 12:58 qemu-system-x86_64 appears to have sgx-epc, but not memory-backend-epc Markus Armbruster
2026-10-23 10:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-23 10:44   ` Peter Maydell
2026-10-23 11:07     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-23 11:50       ` Peter Maydell
2026-10-23 12:36         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-23 12:44           ` Peter Maydell
2026-10-27  6:28         ` Markus Armbruster
2026-10-27  6:40       ` Markus Armbruster
2026-11-02 11:23         ` Igor Mammedov
2026-11-11 14:02           ` Markus Armbruster
2026-11-11 12:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2026-11-11 12:27       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-11-11 13:33         ` Cornelia Huck
2026-11-11 14:15           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-11-11 16:02             ` Cornelia Huck
2026-11-09 14:29   ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2026-11-12 12:15     ` Markus Armbruster
2026-11-12 15:36       ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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