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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	paulmck@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	willy@infradead.org, jon.grimm@amd.com, bharata@amd.com,
	raghavendra.kt@amd.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add multi-page clearing
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 12:32:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bjsoq9fd.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AC2C5344-E655-45BB-B90B-D63C4AC8F2F6@nvidia.com>


Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com> writes:

> On 13 Apr 2025, at 23:46, Ankur Arora wrote:
>
>> This series adds multi-page clearing for hugepages. It is a rework
>> of [1] which took a detour through PREEMPT_LAZY [2].
>>
>> Why multi-page clearing?: multi-page clearing improves upon the
>> current page-at-a-time approach by providing the processor with a
>> hint as to the real region size. A processor could use this hint to,
>> for instance, elide cacheline allocation when clearing a large
>> region.
>>
>> This optimization in particular is done by REP; STOS on AMD Zen
>> where regions larger than L3-size use non-temporal stores.
>>
>> This results in significantly better performance.
>
> Do you have init_on_alloc=1 in your kernel?
> With that, pages coming from buddy allocator are zeroed
> in post_alloc_hook() by kernel_init_pages(), which is a for loop
> of clear_highpage_kasan_tagged(), a wrap of clear_page().
> And folio_zero_user() is not used.
>
> At least Debian, Fedora, and Ubuntu by default have
> CONFIG_INIT_ON_ALLOC_DEFAULT_ON=y, which means init_on_alloc=1.
>
> Maybe kernel_init_pages() should get your optimization as well,
> unless you only target hugetlb pages.

Thanks for the suggestion. I do plan to look for other places where
we could be zeroing contiguous regions.

Often the problem is that even if the underlying region is contiguous,
it isn't so under CONFIG_HIGHMEM. For instance,
clear_highpage_kasan_tagged() does a kmap/kunmap_local_page() around the
clearing. This breaks the contiguous region into multiple 4K pages even
when CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not defined.

I wonder if we need a clear_highpages() kind of abstraction which lets
HIGHMEM and non-HIGHMEM go their separate ways.

--
ankur


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-22 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-14  3:46 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for " Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 11:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:46       ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 22:26       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15  6:14         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15  8:22           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 20:01             ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 20:32               ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14 19:52     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 20:09       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-15 21:59         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] x86/clear_page: add clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] huge_page: allow arch override for folio_zero_user() Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] x86/folio_zero_user: multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 21:21     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  7:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-15  6:36     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-22  6:36     ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-22 19:14       ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 10:16   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 21:46     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 22:01       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-16  4:46         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-17 14:06           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14  5:34 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add " Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:30   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:19   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 19:10 ` Zi Yan
2025-04-22 19:32   ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2025-04-22  6:23 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-22 19:22   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-23  8:12     ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-23  9:18       ` Raghavendra K T

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