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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, luto@kernel.org, paulmck@kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de, willy@infradead.org,
	jon.grimm@amd.com, bharata@amd.com, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for multi-page clearing
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:01:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cyddxkgl.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGudoHE2DW86hsx5H6iBwMUuKT=onTNd_OnBBCbv5dCpqvHjUA@mail.gmail.com>


Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 8:14 AM Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> writes:
>> > With that sucker out of the way, an optional quest is to figure out if
>> > rep stosq vs rep stosb makes any difference for pages -- for all I know
>> > rep stosq is the way. This would require testing on quite a few uarchs
>> > and I'm not going to blame anyone for not being interested.
>>
>> IIRC some recent AMD models (Rome?) did expose REP_GOOD but not ERMS.
>>
>
> The uarch does not have it or the bit magically fails to show up?
> Worst case, should rep stosb be faster on that uarch, the kernel can
> pretend the bit is set.

It's a synthetic bit so the uarch has both. I think REP STOSB is optimized
post FSRS (AIUI Zen3)

        if (c->x86 >= 0x10)
                set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_REP_GOOD);

        /* AMD FSRM also implies FSRS */
        if (cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_FSRM))
                set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_FSRS);


>> > Let's say nobody bothered OR rep stosb provides a win. In that case this
>> > can trivially ALTERNATIVE between rep stosb and rep stosq based on ERMS,
>> > no func calls necessary.
>>
>> We shouldn't need any function calls for ERMS and REP_GOOD.
>>
>> I think something like this untested code should work:
>>
>>         asm volatile(
>>             ALTERNATIVE_2("call clear_pages_orig",
>>                           "rep stosb", X86_FEATURE_REP_GOOD,
>>                           "shrl $3,%ecx; rep stosq", X86_FEATURE_ERMS,
>>                           : "+c" (size), "+D" (addr), ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT
>>                           : "a" (0)))
>>
>
> That's what I'm suggesting, with one difference: whack
> clear_pages_orig altogether.

What do we gain by getting rid of it? Maybe there's old hardware with
unoptimized rep; stos*.

--
ankur


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-15 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-14  3:46 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for " Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 11:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:46       ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 22:26       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15  6:14         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15  8:22           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 20:01             ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2025-04-15 20:32               ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14 19:52     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 20:09       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-15 21:59         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] x86/clear_page: add clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] huge_page: allow arch override for folio_zero_user() Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  3:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] x86/folio_zero_user: multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 21:21     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  7:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-15  6:36     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-22  6:36     ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-22 19:14       ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 10:16   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 21:46     ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 22:01       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-16  4:46         ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-17 14:06           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14  5:34 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add " Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:30   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14  6:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:19   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 19:10 ` Zi Yan
2025-04-22 19:32   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-22  6:23 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-22 19:22   ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-23  8:12     ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-23  9:18       ` Raghavendra K T

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