[wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Specify Australian DFS region as DFS-ETSI

[wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Specify Australian DFS region as DFS-ETSI

[Dmitry Ivanov]

Currently, DFS region for Australia is not specified. This prevents starting AP with AU country code on DFS-affected channel in 5 GHz band with latest cfg80211 and hostapd because there is an explicit check for such condition.

This patch specifies DFS region for Australia as DFS-ETSI. Alternatively, DFS-FCC can be used.

Source: AS/NZS 4268 (not avilable online).

---
 db.txt | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index ad2acf5..057c8e6 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
 	# 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
 	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
 
-country AU:
+country AU: DFS-ETSI
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
 	(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
 	(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
-- 
2.1.4


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Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Specify Australian DFS region as DFS-ETSI

[Jouni Malinen]

On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 11:32:16AM +0300, Dmitry Ivanov wrote:
> Currently, DFS region for Australia is not specified. This prevents starting AP with AU country code on DFS-affected channel in 5 GHz band with latest cfg80211 and hostapd because there is an explicit check for such condition.
> 
> This patch specifies DFS region for Australia as DFS-ETSI. Alternatively, DFS-FCC can be used.

I would have used DFS-FCC here unless you have a clear indication of
DFS-ETSI being closer to requirements. In addition, there should be a
Signed-off-by: tag in the commit log as described in the CONTRIBUTING
file.
 
-- 
Jouni Malinen                                            PGP id EFC895FA

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Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Specify Australian DFS region as DFS-ETSI

[Bjørn Mork]

Jouni Malinen <jouni@qca.qualcomm.com> writes:
> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 11:32:16AM +0300, Dmitry Ivanov wrote:
>> Currently, DFS region for Australia is not specified. This prevents starting AP with AU country code on DFS-affected channel in 5 GHz band with latest cfg80211 and hostapd because there is an explicit check for such condition.
>> 
>> This patch specifies DFS region for Australia as DFS-ETSI. Alternatively, DFS-FCC can be used.
>
> I would have used DFS-FCC here unless you have a clear indication of
> DFS-ETSI being closer to requirements. In addition, there should be a
> Signed-off-by: tag in the commit log as described in the CONTRIBUTING
> file.

From what I can gather from
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2014L01253
the details are hidden in the standard "AS/NZS 4268:2012". The scope
here:
  http://shop.standards.co.nz/catalog/4268:2012%28AS|NZS%29/scope?
shows the existence of an appendix "B" titled

 "DYNAMIC FREQUENCY SELECTION (DFS) AND TRANSMIT POWER CONTROL (TPC)
  REQUIREMENTS FOR RADIO LOCAL AREA NETWORK (RLAN) TRANSMITTERS
  OPERATING IN 5250 TO 5350 MHz OR 5470 TO 5725 MHz"

But I'm afraid you'll have to buy the standard to get the full details...

Given hysterical raisins, and the general tendency to reference ETSI
standards and ERC decisions, I'd say that DFS-ETSI is more likely.  Why
would they use FCC rules?

But it should probably be kept aligned with the NZ entry, which
currently is DFS-FCC.  Don't know the source of that, though.  Could
very well be wrong...  Ref the "EN 301 893 V1.7.1" alternative given
here:  https://gazette.govt.nz/notice/id/2015-go694


Bjørn

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Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Specify Australian DFS region as DFS-ETSI

[Seth Forshee]

On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:58:58PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Jouni Malinen <jouni@qca.qualcomm.com> writes:
> > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 11:32:16AM +0300, Dmitry Ivanov wrote:
> >> Currently, DFS region for Australia is not specified. This prevents starting AP with AU country code on DFS-affected channel in 5 GHz band with latest cfg80211 and hostapd because there is an explicit check for such condition.
> >> 
> >> This patch specifies DFS region for Australia as DFS-ETSI. Alternatively, DFS-FCC can be used.
> >
> > I would have used DFS-FCC here unless you have a clear indication of
> > DFS-ETSI being closer to requirements. In addition, there should be a
> > Signed-off-by: tag in the commit log as described in the CONTRIBUTING
> > file.
> 
> From what I can gather from
> http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2014L01253
> the details are hidden in the standard "AS/NZS 4268:2012". The scope
> here:
>   http://shop.standards.co.nz/catalog/4268:2012%28AS|NZS%29/scope?
> shows the existence of an appendix "B" titled
> 
>  "DYNAMIC FREQUENCY SELECTION (DFS) AND TRANSMIT POWER CONTROL (TPC)
>   REQUIREMENTS FOR RADIO LOCAL AREA NETWORK (RLAN) TRANSMITTERS
>   OPERATING IN 5250 TO 5350 MHz OR 5470 TO 5725 MHz"
> 
> But I'm afraid you'll have to buy the standard to get the full details...
> 
> Given hysterical raisins, and the general tendency to reference ETSI
> standards and ERC decisions, I'd say that DFS-ETSI is more likely.  Why
> would they use FCC rules?
> 
> But it should probably be kept aligned with the NZ entry, which
> currently is DFS-FCC.  Don't know the source of that, though.  Could
> very well be wrong...  Ref the "EN 301 893 V1.7.1" alternative given
> here:  https://gazette.govt.nz/notice/id/2015-go694

That's the most official-looking (free) source of information I could
trun up as well.

Dmitry, you site AS/NZS 4268 as your source - do you have access to
this, and can you confirm that the requirements are closest to DFS-ETSI?
It would be great if someone else with access to the document could ack
this as well, since at first blush this appears to be in contradiction
to Peter's email.

I agree that it doesn't seem to make any sense for Australia and New
Zealand to be different here. So if Australia is specified to use
DFS-ETSI I think New Zealand should be changed to use it as well.

Thanks,
Seth

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Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Specify Australian DFS region as DFS-ETSI

[Dmitrijs Ivanovs]

Hi!

I only can access an electronic copy of a previous version of AS/NZS
4268 issued in 2008. Yes, there is an Appendix B which states: use
European standard, or _alternatively_ FCC rules.
It is unlikely that this clause has changed in 2012 so that ETSI is
not allowed anymore.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Seth Forshee
<seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote:
> Dmitry, you site AS/NZS 4268 as your source - do you have access to
> this, and can you confirm that the requirements are closest to DFS-ETSI?
> It would be great if someone else with access to the document could ack
> this as well, since at first blush this appears to be in contradiction
> to Peter's email.
>
> I agree that it doesn't seem to make any sense for Australia and New
> Zealand to be different here. So if Australia is specified to use
> DFS-ETSI I think New Zealand should be changed to use it as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth

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Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Specify Australian DFS region as DFS-ETSI

[Seth Forshee]

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:16:22AM +0300, Dmitrijs Ivanovs wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I only can access an electronic copy of a previous version of AS/NZS
> 4268 issued in 2008. Yes, there is an Appendix B which states: use
> European standard, or _alternatively_ FCC rules.
> It is unlikely that this clause has changed in 2012 so that ETSI is
> not allowed anymore.

Great, thanks. It would be nice to be sure what the most recent version
says, but all the unofficial information I found online either agrees
with this or else mentions only ETSI. Still, DFS-FCC for New Zealand was
added in 2013, but as part of a large group of countries and no
reference was given.

Again though it seems that if Austrailia is to be DFS-ETSI then New
Zealand should be changed to match as well. Could you send an updated
patch which includes that change?

Thanks,
Seth

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[wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Change DFS domain to DFS-ETSI for Australia and New Zealand

[Dmitry Ivanov]

Change DFS domain to DFS-ETSI for Australia and New Zealand

Signed-off-by: Dmitry Ivanov <dima@ubnt.com>
---
 db.txt | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index ad2acf5..1041ffb 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
 	# 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
 	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
 
-country AU:
+country AU: DFS-ETSI
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
 	(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
 	(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
@@ -862,7 +862,7 @@ country NP: DFS-JP
 	(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
 	(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (20)
 
-country NZ: DFS-FCC
+country NZ: DFS-ETSI
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (30)
 	(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
 	(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
-- 
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Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Change DFS domain to DFS-ETSI for Australia and New Zealand

[Seth Forshee]

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 11:16:19AM +0300, Dmitry Ivanov wrote:
> Change DFS domain to DFS-ETSI for Australia and New Zealand
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Ivanov <dima@ubnt.com>

Thanks Dmitry. I'll let this sit for a few days to see if there's any
more feedback.

Seth

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Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Change DFS domain to DFS-ETSI for Australia and New Zealand

[Seth Forshee]

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 11:16:19AM +0300, Dmitry Ivanov wrote:
> Change DFS domain to DFS-ETSI for Australia and New Zealand
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Ivanov <dima@ubnt.com>

Applied, with the addition the source line from your previous patches to
the commit message. Thanks!

Seth

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[wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Specify Australian DFS region as DFS-ETSI

[Dmitry Ivanov]

Currently, DFS region for Australia is not specified. This prevents starting AP with AU country code on DFS-affected channel in 5 GHz band with latest cfg80211 and hostapd because there is an explicit check for such condition.

Australian standard AS/NZS 4268 requires that DFS must be implemented in accordance to EN 301 893. Alternatively, FCC Part 15.407(h)(2) can be used.

This patch specifies DFS region for Australia as DFS-ETSI.

Source: AS/NZS 4268 (not avilable online).

Signed-off-by: Dmitry Ivanov <dima@ubnt.com>
---
 db.txt | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index ad2acf5..057c8e6 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
 	# 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
 	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
 
-country AU:
+country AU: DFS-ETSI
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
 	(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
 	(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
-- 
2.1.4


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