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From: Phillip Susi <phill@thesusis.net>
To: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Paul Ausbeck <paula@soe.ucsc.edu>,
	Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
	Joe Breuer <linux-kernel@jmbreuer.net>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Chia-Lin Kao <acelan.kao@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/23] scsi: sd: Differentiate system and runtime start/stop management
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:00:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edhpi0ft.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26de72d5-02d3-489c-a789-b2b709ae073e@kernel.org>

Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org> writes:

> With the device links in place between port and scsi devices, we should be OK.
> But still need to check that we do not need runtime_get/put calls added.
> Ideally, we should have the chain:
>
> scsi disk -> scsi target -> scsi host -> ata port

It looks to me like there is an additional generic block device that
sits on top and that is what actually has the idle timeout.  Or maybe
that's the scsi disk, since it's name incldues the SCSI LUN, but in the
structure, its called sdev_gendev.  But then there's also sdev_dev, and
sdev_target.

> for runtime suspend, and the reverse for runtime resume. If there is a system
> suspend/resume between runtime suspend/resume, the port should not be resumed if
> it is runtime suspended.

I'm not sure about it.  The port has to be resumed so that we can
attempt to revalidate the devices on it.  For disks that have spun up on
their own, we should not leave then marked as runtime suspended, but
really they are spinning.  I suppose we could put them to sleep, though
I was leaning to just marking them as active, and leaving the runtime pm
timer to put them to sleep later, which then could allow the port to
suspend again.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-20 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-27 14:18 [PATCH v8 00/23] Fix libata suspend/resume handling and code cleanup Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 01/23] ata: libata-core: Fix ata_port_request_pm() locking Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 02/23] ata: libata-core: Fix port and device removal Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 03/23] ata: libata-scsi: link ata port and scsi device Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] scsi: sd: Differentiate system and runtime start/stop management Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 19:50   ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-10 13:09   ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-10 14:04     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-15 16:14   ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-15 22:44     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-16 12:39       ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-16 12:55         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-17 18:03           ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-17 23:32             ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-20 19:00               ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2023-10-18  6:16             ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-20 21:23               ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-23  5:51                 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-26 21:21                   ` Phillip Susi
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 05/23] ata: libata-scsi: Disable scsi device manage_system_start_stop Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 06/23] scsi: Do not attempt to rescan suspended devices Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 19:51   ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 07/23] ata: libata-scsi: Fix delayed scsi_rescan_device() execution Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 08/23] ata: libata-core: Do not register PM operations for SAS ports Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 09/23] scsi: sd: Do not issue commands to suspended disks on shutdown Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 19:52   ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 10/23] ata: libata-core: Fix compilation warning in ata_dev_config_ncq() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 11/23] ata: libata-eh: Fix compilation warning in ata_eh_link_report() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 12/23] scsi: Remove scsi device no_start_on_resume flag Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 19:52   ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 13/23] ata: libata-scsi: Cleanup ata_scsi_start_stop_xlat() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 14/23] ata: libata-core: Synchronize ata_port_detach() with hotplug Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 15/23] ata: libata-core: Detach a port devices on shutdown Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 16/23] ata: libata-core: Remove ata_port_suspend_async() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 17/23] ata: libata-core: Remove ata_port_resume_async() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 18/23] ata: libata-core: Do not poweroff runtime suspended ports Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 19/23] ata: libata-core: Do not resume " Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 20/23] ata: libata-sata: Improve ata_sas_slave_configure() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 21/23] ata: libata-eh: Improve reset error messages Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 22/23] ata: libata-eh: Reduce "disable device" message verbosity Damien Le Moal
2023-09-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v8 23/23] ata: libata: Cleanup inline DMA helper functions Damien Le Moal
2023-10-02 23:39 ` [PATCH v8 00/23] Fix libata suspend/resume handling and code cleanup Phillip Susi
2023-10-03  0:27   ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-03  0:44     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-03 21:22       ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-03 23:46         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-04 21:01           ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-04 22:33             ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-05 12:38               ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-03  0:32   ` Damien Le Moal
     [not found] <c0b086ab-dcd5-4b7b-b931-4d407dd7ad47()kernel!org>
2023-10-12 19:01 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] scsi: sd: Differentiate system and runtime start/stop management Phillip Susi
2023-10-13  0:57   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-13 14:36     ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-15 22:09       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-21 17:56         ` Phillip Susi
2023-10-23  5:49           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-11-03 18:05             ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-03 23:01               ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-06  2:32                 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-11-07 13:27                   ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-07 21:59                     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-11-08 22:07                       ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-06  3:00               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-11-07 13:45                 ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-07 21:48                   ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-07 23:11                     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-11-08 22:15                       ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-09 22:09                         ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-09 22:57                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-11-10 16:41                             ` Phillip Susi
2023-11-10  0:43                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-11-07 22:13                   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-11-08 22:25                     ` Phillip Susi

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