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From: "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,  <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,  Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	 Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,  <jhladky@redhat.com>,
	 <lvenanci@redhat.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] autonuma: Fix scan period updating
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:04:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ef295yn9.fsf@yhuang-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190726092021.GA5273@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (Srikar Dronamraju's message of "Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:50:21 +0530")

Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:

> * Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> [2019-07-26 15:45:39]:
>
>> Hi, Srikar,
>> 
>> >
>> > More Remote + Private page Accesses:
>> > Most likely the Private accesses are going to be local accesses.
>> >
>> > In the unlikely event of the private accesses not being local, we should
>> > scan faster so that the memory and task consolidates.
>> >
>> > More Remote + Shared page Accesses: This means the workload has not
>> > consolidated and needs to scan faster. So we need to scan faster.
>> 
>> This sounds reasonable.  But
>> 
>> lr_ratio < NUMA_PERIOD_THRESHOLD
>> 
>> doesn't indicate More Remote.  If Local = Remote, it is also true.  If
>
> less lr_ratio means more remote.
>
>> there are also more Shared, we should slow down the scanning.  So, the
>
> Why should we slowing down if there are more remote shared accesses?
>
>> logic could be
>> 
>> if (lr_ratio >= NUMA_PERIOD_THRESHOLD)
>>     slow down scanning
>> else if (sp_ratio >= NUMA_PERIOD_THRESHOLD) {
>>     if (NUMA_PERIOD_SLOTS - lr_ratio >= NUMA_PERIOD_THRESHOLD)
>>         speed up scanning

Thought about this again.  For example, a multi-threads workload runs on
a 4-sockets machine, and most memory accesses are shared.  The optimal
situation will be pseudo-interleaving, that is, spreading memory
accesses evenly among 4 NUMA nodes.  Where "share" >> "private", and
"remote" > "local".  And we should slow down scanning to reduce the
overhead.

What do you think about this?

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

>>     else
>>         slow down scanning
>> } else
>>    speed up scanning
>> 
>> This follows your idea better?
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-25  8:01 [PATCH RESEND] autonuma: Fix scan period updating Huang, Ying
2019-07-25 17:35 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2019-07-26  7:45   ` Huang, Ying
2019-07-26  9:20     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2019-07-29  3:04       ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2019-07-29  7:28         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2019-07-29  8:16           ` Huang, Ying
2019-07-29  8:56             ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-30  1:38               ` Huang, Ying

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