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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: Thiago Rafael Becker <thiago.becker@gmail.com>
Cc: Thiago Rafael Becker <thiago.becker@gmail.com>,
	bfields@fieldses.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3, V2] kernel: Move groups_sort to the caller of set_groups.
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 07:11:00 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87efoatfsb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.21.1712041049280.1738@tbecker-rhat>

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On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Thiago Rafael Becker wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Dec 2017, NeilBrown wrote:
>
>> I think you need to add groups_sort() in a few more places.
>> Almost anywhere that calls groups_alloc() should be considered.
>> net/sunrpc/svcauth_unix.c, net/sunrpc/auth_gss/svcauth_gss.c,
>> fs/nfsd/auth.c definitely need it.
>
> So are any other functions that modify group_info. OK, I think I'll 
> implement the type detection below as it helps detecting where these 
> situations are located.
>
> This may take some time to make sane. I wonder if we shouldn't 
> accept the first change suggested to fix the corruption detected in 
> auth.unix.gid while I work on a new set of patches. 

As we don't seem to be pursuing this possibility is probably isn't very
important, but I'd like to point out that the original fix isn't a true
fix.
It just sorts a shared group_info early.  This does not stop corruption.
Every time a thread calls set_groups() on that group_info it will be
sorted again.
The sort algorithm used is the heap sort, and a heap sort always moves
elements in the array around - it does not leave a sorted array
untouched (unlike e.g. the quick sort which doesn't move anything in a
sorted array).
So it is still possible for two calls to groups_sort() to race.
We *need* to move groups_sort() out of set_groups().

Thanks,
NeilBrown


>    Also, that patch 
> doesn't change behavior of set_groups, and is easier to backport if 
> distros relying on older kernels need to do so and change behavior. The 
> first suggestion is undergoing tests, and so far we didn't detect any 
> new corruptions on auth.unix.gid.
>
>> Maybe it could be done with types.
>
> I changed the interfaces on groups_{alloc,sort} to check. There are some 
> extra changes needed in groups_from_user and others to make this viable, 
> but I like it and I'll try to make it happen.
>
>> Thanks,
>> NeilBrown
>>
>
> Thanks,
> trbecker

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-04 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-30 13:04 [PATCH 0/3, V2] Move groups_sort outisde of set_groups Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-11-30 13:04 ` [PATCH 1/3, V2] kernel: make groups_sort globally visible Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-11-30 13:04 ` [PATCH 2/3, V2] kernel: Move groups_sort to the caller of set_groups Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-03 12:56   ` kbuild test robot
2017-12-04  1:42   ` NeilBrown
2017-12-04 15:39     ` Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-04 15:47       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-12-04 19:00         ` Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-04 20:11       ` NeilBrown [this message]
2017-12-05 21:28         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-05 22:05           ` NeilBrown
2017-12-05 23:03           ` Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-05 23:23             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-19 16:30         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-12-19 20:14           ` NeilBrown
2017-11-30 13:04 ` [PATCH 3/3, V2] kernel: set_groups doesn't call groups_sort anymore Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 0/3 v3] Move groups_sort outisde of set_groups Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-05 14:05   ` [PATCH 1/3 v3] kernel: make groups_sort globally visible Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-05 14:05   ` [PATCH 2/3 v3] kernel: Move groups_sort to the caller of set_groups Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-05 18:55     ` [PATCH 2/3] " Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-05 22:08       ` NeilBrown
2017-12-05 18:57     ` [PATCH 2/3 v3] " Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-05 14:05   ` [PATCH 3/3 v3] kernel: set_groups doesn't call groups_sort anymore Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-06 19:27   ` [PATCH 0/3 v3] Move groups_sort outisde of set_groups J. Bruce Fields
2017-12-11 13:28   ` [PATCH v4] kernel: make groups_sort calling a responsibility group_info allocators Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-11 14:27     ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-11 15:14       ` [PATCH v5] " Thiago Rafael Becker
2017-12-11 15:24         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-11 16:18         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-12-11 21:43         ` NeilBrown
2017-12-11 21:43         ` NeilBrown
2018-01-02 14:54           ` David Howells
2018-01-02 21:01             ` [PATCH] Documentation: security/credentials.rst: explain need to sort group_list NeilBrown
2018-01-02 21:04               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-01-06 18:09                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-01-06 20:20                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-01-06 22:36                     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-01-08 16:36                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-01-07 23:39                   ` NeilBrown
2018-01-08 16:40                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-01-08 16:40                       ` Jonathan Corbet

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