From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@kernel.org>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>,
"Nicolas Ferre" <nicolas.ferre@microchip.com>,
"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
"Claudiu Beznea" <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
"Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Larry Finger" <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-staging@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:48:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs2fgals.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63e57ef8-c9f2-489a-8df8-51dcffd437c6@app.fastmail.com> (Arnd Bergmann's message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:36:26 +0200")
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023, at 13:47, Kalle Valo wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone willing to submit patches? Use wireless-next as the baseline
>> for patches and one driver per commit, please. That way it's easy to
>> revert later, if needed (hopefully not).
>
> I can do it, I've already done most of the work for moving the
> drivers, so I just need to split up my existing patch and leave out
> the bits that get added to drivers/staging.
Awesome, thank you!
> I'll also send Greg a patch to remove rtl8192u now that we know
> that this has been broken for 7 years. Similarly, I'd include
> another patch to remove PCMCIA support for libertas, as that
> would otherwise be the only remaining 16-bit PCMCIA wlan card,
> and I could find no indication of this one ever being popular,
> unlike the USB/SDIO/SPI variants of the same device or the
> other PCMCIA drivers.
>
> This would leave only a handful of wext implementations in the
> tree: ipw2x00, ps3-gelic-wireless, staging/rtl8712, staging/rtl8192e
> and staging/ks7010. Since ipw2x00 is apparently still supported
> in theory and was rather popular on Pentium-M based systems 20
> years ago, this may still need to be converted to cfg80211
> before you can remove support for wext style drivers altogether.
> ps3-gelic-wireless and rtl8712 are also still maintained but have
> a much smaller user base I assume.
Actually I would prefer to remove ipw2x00 and ps3-gelic-wireless as
well. I have not seen any evidence that there would be users for those
drivers. If we find out that there really are users I can easily add the
drivers back. The faster we get rid of wext the better, it really needs
to go away.
--
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/
https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches
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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@kernel.org>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:48:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs2fgals.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63e57ef8-c9f2-489a-8df8-51dcffd437c6@app.fastmail.com> (Arnd Bergmann's message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:36:26 +0200")
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023, at 13:47, Kalle Valo wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone willing to submit patches? Use wireless-next as the baseline
>> for patches and one driver per commit, please. That way it's easy to
>> revert later, if needed (hopefully not).
>
> I can do it, I've already done most of the work for moving the
> drivers, so I just need to split up my existing patch and leave out
> the bits that get added to drivers/staging.
Awesome, thank you!
> I'll also send Greg a patch to remove rtl8192u now that we know
> that this has been broken for 7 years. Similarly, I'd include
> another patch to remove PCMCIA support for libertas, as that
> would otherwise be the only remaining 16-bit PCMCIA wlan card,
> and I could find no indication of this one ever being popular,
> unlike the USB/SDIO/SPI variants of the same device or the
> other PCMCIA drivers.
>
> This would leave only a handful of wext implementations in the
> tree: ipw2x00, ps3-gelic-wireless, staging/rtl8712, staging/rtl8192e
> and staging/ks7010. Since ipw2x00 is apparently still supported
> in theory and was rather popular on Pentium-M based systems 20
> years ago, this may still need to be converted to cfg80211
> before you can remove support for wext style drivers altogether.
> ps3-gelic-wireless and rtl8712 are also still maintained but have
> a much smaller user base I assume.
Actually I would prefer to remove ipw2x00 and ps3-gelic-wireless as
well. I have not seen any evidence that there would be users for those
drivers. If we find out that there really are users I can easily add the
drivers back. The faster we get rid of wext the better, it really needs
to go away.
--
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/
https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-10 15:27 [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-10 15:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-10 16:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-10 16:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11 5:40 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 5:40 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 6:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11 6:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11 7:29 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 7:29 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 15:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-11 15:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-12 11:47 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-12 11:47 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-12 14:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-12 14:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-12 14:48 ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2023-10-12 14:48 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-12 15:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:28 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 15:28 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 15:28 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 15:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:41 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 15:41 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 15:41 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 16:36 ` Geoff Levand
2023-10-12 16:36 ` Geoff Levand
2023-10-12 16:36 ` Geoff Levand
2023-10-13 15:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 15:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 15:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 18:02 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-13 18:02 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-13 18:02 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-18 20:37 ` Jeff Johnson
2023-10-18 20:37 ` Jeff Johnson
2023-10-18 20:37 ` Jeff Johnson
2023-10-12 16:16 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-12 16:16 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-12 16:18 ` Dan Williams
2023-10-12 16:18 ` Dan Williams
2023-10-11 7:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11 7:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11 7:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11 7:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11 8:44 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 8:44 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 9:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11 9:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11 18:13 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-11 18:13 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-11 20:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11 20:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-12 6:23 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-10-12 6:23 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-10-13 6:42 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-13 6:42 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-13 15:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 15:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 16:24 ` Larry Finger
2023-10-13 16:24 ` Larry Finger
2023-10-15 18:42 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-15 18:42 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-18 16:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-18 16:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 11:43 ` kernel test robot
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