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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 09:08:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h6mqixya.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230905162335.235619-1-peterx@redhat.com> (Peter Xu's message of "Tue, 5 Sep 2023 12:23:31 -0400")

Let me try to summarize our findings so far.

PATCH 1 has been merged.  PATCH 2 has been queued, but not merged (not
sure why, accident?).

The remaining two are the actual de-triplication:

PATCH 3: Fuse MigrationParameters and MigrateSetParameters

PATCH 4: De-document MigrationParameter

The latter is a much simpler problem, so let's discuss it first.


Enum MigrationParameter is used only internally.  It's in the QAPI
schema just because we want code generated for it.  It shouldn't be
documented in the QEMU QMP Reference Manual, but is, because the
generator is too stupid to elide internal-only stuff.

PATCH 4 moves it out of the schema.  It has to add back the lost
generated code in hand-written form, which is a bit unfortunate.  I
proposed to instead drop most of the useless doc comment by exploiting a
QAPI generator loophole.

Aside: the QAPI generator should elide internal-only stuff from the QEMU
QMP Reference manual, and it should not require doc comments then.
Future work, let's not worry about it now.


The fusing of MigrationParameters and MigrateSetParameters is kind of
stuck.  Several options, all with drawbacks or problems:

1. Pick StrOrNull for the tls_FOO members

   This is what PATCH 3 does.  Blocked on the pre-existing class of
   crash bugs discussed in

    Subject: QAPI string visitors crashes
    Message-ID: <875y3epv3y.fsf@pond.sub.org>
    https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/875y3epv3y.fsf@pond.sub.org/

   Needs fixing, but when a fix will be available is unclear.

2. Pick str for the tls_FOO members

   This is what v1 did.  Incompatible change: JSON null no longer works.
   Libvirt doesn't use it (it uses deprecated "" instead), but we cannot
   know for sure nothing else out there uses it.

   I don't think reducing development friction (that's what
   de-duplication accomplishes) justifies breaking our compatibility
   promise.

   To keep the promise, we'd have to deprecate null, un-deprecate "",
   let the grace period pass, and only then de-duplicate.

3. Do nothing, live with the duplication

   Giving up like this would be sad.  Unless we commit to a more
   complete overhaul of migration's QAPI/QMP configuration interface,
   but I doubt we're ready for that.

Thoughts?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-16 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-05 16:23 [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash Peter Xu
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] migration/qmp: Fix crash on setting tls-authz with null Peter Xu
2023-09-28  4:47   ` Michael Tokarev
2023-09-28  5:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-28  6:56       ` Michael Tokarev
2023-10-04 13:58   ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-16  6:05   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] tests/migration-test: Add a test for null parameter setups Peter Xu
2023-10-04 13:58   ` Juan Quintela
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-02 19:52     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-09 12:25       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-10 15:05         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-10 19:18           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-10 20:09             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-11  4:28               ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-11 14:21                 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-12 19:28                   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-13  5:36                     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-31 11:08                       ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-02 14:25                         ` Configuring migration (was: [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters) Markus Armbruster
2023-11-02 18:05                           ` Peter Xu
2023-11-14  7:27                             ` Configuring migration Markus Armbruster
2023-11-14 10:20                               ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14  9:13                           ` Configuring migration (was: [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters) Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14  9:53                             ` Configuring migration Markus Armbruster
2023-11-14  9:55                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14 10:28                             ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14 10:34                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14 10:42                                 ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14 10:45                                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-12 15:58                 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters Peter Xu
2023-10-13  5:41                   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] migration/qapi: Drop @MigrationParameter enum Peter Xu
2023-09-06  4:42   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-09-06  9:00     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-06 10:14       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-09-06 10:46         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-26 19:05           ` Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:43   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-02 20:42     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-16  6:29       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-16 16:16         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-16 17:36           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash Markus Armbruster
2023-09-26 17:06   ` Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:03     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-16  7:08 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2023-10-16 16:29   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-17  6:32     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-17 15:28       ` Peter Xu
2023-10-18  5:38         ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25 13:17       ` QAPI doc generator improvements (was: [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash) Markus Armbruster

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