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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 12:08:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zfzz82xq.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cnrjd71.fsf@pond.sub.org> (Markus Armbruster's message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2023 07:36:50 +0200")

Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 04:21:02PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:

>> IIRC both of them used to be the goals: either allow compat properties for
>> old machine types, or specify migration parameters in cmdline for easier
>> debugging and tests.  I use "-global" in mostly every migration test script
>> after it's introduced.
>
> You use -global just because it's easier than using monitor commands,
> correct?

It is long history.  But to make things easier I will try to resume.
In the beggining there was no "defer" method, so it was imposible to
setup migration-channels and that kind of information.
So we created that -global migration properties.

Time pass, and we need to fix that for real, because more and more
migration parameters need to be set bofer we start incoming migration.
So we create migration "defer" method.  And now we can set things from
the command line/QMP.

But when one is testing (i.e. migration developers), using the global
property is much easier.

I am always tempted to modify the monitor command line to allow "read
the commands from this file at startup".

> Configuration is almost entirely special (own QMP commands for
> everything), with a little abuse of general infrastructure stirred in
> (-global, compat props).  Having capabilities in addition to parameters
> is a useless complication.  Too many features of questionable utility
> with way too many configuration knobs.

I also remember that one.
In the beggining all migration options were bools.  So we have named
capabilities.  At some point we needed parameters that were not bools,
so we had to get the parameters thing because all the migration code
supposed that the capabilities were bool.

No, I am not defending the choices we made at the time, but that is how
it happened.  To be fair, when I have a new "bool" to add to migration,
I am never sure if I have to add it as a capability or as a parameter
that returns bool.


Later, Juan.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-31 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-05 16:23 [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash Peter Xu
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] migration/qmp: Fix crash on setting tls-authz with null Peter Xu
2023-09-28  4:47   ` Michael Tokarev
2023-09-28  5:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-28  6:56       ` Michael Tokarev
2023-10-04 13:58   ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-16  6:05   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] tests/migration-test: Add a test for null parameter setups Peter Xu
2023-10-04 13:58   ` Juan Quintela
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-02 19:52     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-09 12:25       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-10 15:05         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-10 19:18           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-10 20:09             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-11  4:28               ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-11 14:21                 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-12 19:28                   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-13  5:36                     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-31 11:08                       ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2023-11-02 14:25                         ` Configuring migration (was: [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters) Markus Armbruster
2023-11-02 18:05                           ` Peter Xu
2023-11-14  7:27                             ` Configuring migration Markus Armbruster
2023-11-14 10:20                               ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14  9:13                           ` Configuring migration (was: [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters) Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14  9:53                             ` Configuring migration Markus Armbruster
2023-11-14  9:55                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14 10:28                             ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14 10:34                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14 10:42                                 ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14 10:45                                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-12 15:58                 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters Peter Xu
2023-10-13  5:41                   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] migration/qapi: Drop @MigrationParameter enum Peter Xu
2023-09-06  4:42   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-09-06  9:00     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-06 10:14       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-09-06 10:46         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-26 19:05           ` Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:43   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-02 20:42     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-16  6:29       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-16 16:16         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-16 17:36           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash Markus Armbruster
2023-09-26 17:06   ` Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:03     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-16  7:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-16 16:29   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-17  6:32     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-17 15:28       ` Peter Xu
2023-10-18  5:38         ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25 13:17       ` QAPI doc generator improvements (was: [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash) Markus Armbruster

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