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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"devel@linuxdriverproject.org" <devel@linuxdriverproject.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/vdso: Add VCLOCK_HVCLOCK vDSO clock read method
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:15:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h942qm2j.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXptSZJMH4yBqn=xPeJHDPZNnq7io8v75=spT6q1RTpdA@mail.gmail.com> (Andy Lutomirski's message of "Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:55:50 -0800")

Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 12:45 PM, KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thomas Gleixner [mailto:tglx@linutronix.de]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:08 AM
>>> To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: x86@kernel.org; Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>; Ingo Molnar
>>> <mingo@redhat.com>; H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>; KY Srinivasan
>>> <kys@microsoft.com>; Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>; Stephen
>>> Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>; Dexuan Cui
>>> <decui@microsoft.com>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
>>> devel@linuxdriverproject.org; virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/vdso: Add VCLOCK_HVCLOCK vDSO clock read
>>> method
>>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>>> > +#ifdef CONFIG_HYPERV_TSCPAGE
>>> > +static notrace u64 vread_hvclock(int *mode)
>>> > +{
>>> > +   const struct ms_hyperv_tsc_page *tsc_pg =
>>> > +           (const struct ms_hyperv_tsc_page *)&hvclock_page;
>>> > +   u64 sequence, scale, offset, current_tick, cur_tsc;
>>> > +
>>> > +   while (1) {
>>> > +           sequence = READ_ONCE(tsc_pg->tsc_sequence);
>>> > +           if (!sequence)
>>> > +                   break;
>>> > +
>>> > +           scale = READ_ONCE(tsc_pg->tsc_scale);
>>> > +           offset = READ_ONCE(tsc_pg->tsc_offset);
>>> > +           rdtscll(cur_tsc);
>>> > +
>>> > +           current_tick = mul_u64_u64_shr(cur_tsc, scale, 64) + offset;
>>> > +
>>> > +           if (READ_ONCE(tsc_pg->tsc_sequence) == sequence)
>>> > +                   return current_tick;
>>>
>>> That sequence stuff lacks still a sensible explanation. It's fundamentally
>>> different from the sequence counting we do in the kernel, so documentation
>>> for it is really required.
>>
>> The host is updating multiple fields in this shared TSC page and the sequence number is
>> used to ensure that the guest sees a consistent set values published. If I remember
>> correctly, Xen has a similar mechanism.
>
> So what's the actual protocol?  When the hypervisor updates the page,
> does it freeze all guest cpus?  If not, how does it maintain
> atomicity?

I don't really know how it is implemented server-side but I *think* that
freezing all CPUs is only required when we want to update *both*
ReferenceTscScale and ReferenceTscOffset at the same time (as Hyper-V is
64-bit only so it can always atomically update 64-bit values)...

-- 
  Vitaly

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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"x86\@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devel\@linuxdriverproject.org" <devel@linuxdriverproject.org>,
	"virtualization\@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/vdso: Add VCLOCK_HVCLOCK vDSO clock read method
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:15:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h942qm2j.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXptSZJMH4yBqn=xPeJHDPZNnq7io8v75=spT6q1RTpdA@mail.gmail.com> (Andy Lutomirski's message of "Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:55:50 -0800")

Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 12:45 PM, KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thomas Gleixner [mailto:tglx@linutronix.de]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:08 AM
>>> To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: x86@kernel.org; Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>; Ingo Molnar
>>> <mingo@redhat.com>; H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>; KY Srinivasan
>>> <kys@microsoft.com>; Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>; Stephen
>>> Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>; Dexuan Cui
>>> <decui@microsoft.com>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
>>> devel@linuxdriverproject.org; virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/vdso: Add VCLOCK_HVCLOCK vDSO clock read
>>> method
>>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>>> > +#ifdef CONFIG_HYPERV_TSCPAGE
>>> > +static notrace u64 vread_hvclock(int *mode)
>>> > +{
>>> > +   const struct ms_hyperv_tsc_page *tsc_pg =
>>> > +           (const struct ms_hyperv_tsc_page *)&hvclock_page;
>>> > +   u64 sequence, scale, offset, current_tick, cur_tsc;
>>> > +
>>> > +   while (1) {
>>> > +           sequence = READ_ONCE(tsc_pg->tsc_sequence);
>>> > +           if (!sequence)
>>> > +                   break;
>>> > +
>>> > +           scale = READ_ONCE(tsc_pg->tsc_scale);
>>> > +           offset = READ_ONCE(tsc_pg->tsc_offset);
>>> > +           rdtscll(cur_tsc);
>>> > +
>>> > +           current_tick = mul_u64_u64_shr(cur_tsc, scale, 64) + offset;
>>> > +
>>> > +           if (READ_ONCE(tsc_pg->tsc_sequence) == sequence)
>>> > +                   return current_tick;
>>>
>>> That sequence stuff lacks still a sensible explanation. It's fundamentally
>>> different from the sequence counting we do in the kernel, so documentation
>>> for it is really required.
>>
>> The host is updating multiple fields in this shared TSC page and the sequence number is
>> used to ensure that the guest sees a consistent set values published. If I remember
>> correctly, Xen has a similar mechanism.
>
> So what's the actual protocol?  When the hypervisor updates the page,
> does it freeze all guest cpus?  If not, how does it maintain
> atomicity?

I don't really know how it is implemented server-side but I *think* that
freezing all CPUs is only required when we want to update *both*
ReferenceTscScale and ReferenceTscOffset at the same time (as Hyper-V is
64-bit only so it can always atomically update 64-bit values)...

-- 
  Vitaly

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-10 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-09 14:10 [PATCH 0/2] x86/vdso: Add Hyper-V TSC page clocksource support Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-09 14:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] hyperv: implement hv_get_tsc_page() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-09 14:10 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-09 18:24   ` Stephen Hemminger via Virtualization
2017-02-09 18:24     ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-09 20:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09 20:14       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09 23:17       ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-09 23:17       ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-09 14:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/vdso: Add VCLOCK_HVCLOCK vDSO clock read method Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-09 17:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09 17:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09 18:27     ` Stephen Hemminger via Virtualization
2017-02-09 18:27       ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-10 12:25       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-10 12:25         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-10 12:28         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-10 12:28           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-10 16:31           ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-10 18:01             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-10 18:01               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-13  7:49               ` Dexuan Cui via Virtualization
2017-02-13  7:49                 ` Dexuan Cui
2017-02-13  9:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-13  9:27                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-13 19:06                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-13 19:06                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-13 19:28                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-13 19:28                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-10 16:31           ` Stephen Hemminger via Virtualization
2017-02-09 20:45     ` KY Srinivasan
2017-02-09 22:55       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-09 22:55         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-09 23:15         ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-09 23:15         ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-10 12:15         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2017-02-10 12:15           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-09 20:45     ` KY Srinivasan via Virtualization
2017-02-10 11:06     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-10 11:06       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-02-10 11:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-10 11:15         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09 14:10 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov

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