From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Liu Ping Fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
Cc: mdroth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] port network layer onto glib
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:34:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hakfiild.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51405BEA.6080109@redhat.com>
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
> Il 13/03/2013 06:59, Liu Ping Fan ha scritto:
>> These series aim to port network backend onto glib, and
>> prepare for moving towards making network layer mutlit-thread.
>> The brief of the whole aim and plan is documented on
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/network_reentrant
>>
>> In these series, attach each NetClientState with a GSource
>> At the first, I use AioContext instead of GSource, but after discussion,
>> I think with GSource, we can integrated with glib more closely.
>
> Integrating with glib by itself is pointless. What is the *benefit*?
>
> We have a pretty good idea of how to make multithreaded device models
> using AioContext, since we are using it for the block layer and
> virtio-blk dataplane. Doing the same work twice, on two different
> frameworks, doesn't seem like a very good idea.
Hrm, I had thought on previous threads there was clear agreement that we
did not want to use AioContext outside of the block layer.
I think we certainly all agree that moving to a thread aware event loop
is a necessary step toward multi-threading. I think the only question
is whether to use AioContext or glib.
AioContext is necessary for the block layer because the block layer
still has synchronous I/O. I think we should aim to replace all sync
I/O in the long term with coroutine based I/O. That lets us eliminate
AioContextes entirely which is nice as the semantics are subtle.
I think that's a solid argument for glib over AioContext. The former is
well understood, documented, and makes unit testing easier.
Did you have a specific concern with using glib vs. AioContext? Is it
about reusing code in the block layer where AioContext is required?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-13 12:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-13 5:59 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] port network layer onto glib Liu Ping Fan
2013-03-13 5:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/2] net: port tap " Liu Ping Fan
2013-03-13 5:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/2] net: port hub " Liu Ping Fan
2013-03-13 10:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] port network layer " Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 12:34 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-03-13 16:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 17:06 ` mdroth
2013-03-13 17:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 17:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-13 18:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-13 17:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-13 17:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 17:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-14 9:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-14 9:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 17:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-13 18:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 18:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-14 10:04 ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-14 10:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-14 11:00 ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-14 11:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-14 11:26 ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-15 9:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-19 9:30 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-03-19 10:12 ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-19 10:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 10:38 ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-19 10:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-14 14:08 ` liu ping fan
2013-03-14 14:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
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