From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@kernel.org>,
Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
Christian Schoenebeck <linux_oss@crudebyte.com>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Marc Dionne <marc.dionne@auristor.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"Tigran A. Aivazian" <aivazian.tigran@gmail.com>,
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Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
coda@cs.cmu.edu, Tyler Hicks <code@tyhicks.com>,
Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>,
Sungjong Seo <sj1557.seo@samsung.com>,
Yuezhang Mo <yuezhang.mo@sony.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>, Chao Yu <chao@kernel.org>,
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
Yangtao Li <frank.li@vivo.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
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Ryusuke Konishi <konishi.ryusuke@gmail.com>,
Konstantin Komarov <almaz.alexandrovich@paragon-software.com>,
Mark Fasheh <mark@fasheh.com>, Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
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Bob Copeland <me@bobcopeland.com>,
Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
Martin Brandenburg <martin@omnibond.com>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
Paulo Alcantara <pc@manguebit.org>,
Ronnie Sahlberg <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>,
Shyam Prasad N <sprasad@microsoft.com>,
Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>, Bharath SM <bharathsm@microsoft.com>,
Zhihao Cheng <chengzhihao1@huawei.com>,
Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org>,
Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Subject: LLM disclosure (was: [PATCH v2] vfs: remove the excl argument from the ->create() inode_operation)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2025 15:35:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikfl1nfe.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <176255458305.634289.5577159882824096330@noble.neil.brown.name>
NeilBrown <neilb@ownmail.net> writes:
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2025, Jeff Layton wrote:
>> Full disclosure: I did use Claude code to generate the first
>> approximation of this patch, but I had to fix a number of things that it
>> missed. I probably could have given it better prompts. In any case, I'm
>> not sure how to properly attribute this (or if I even need to).
>
> My understanding is that if you fully understand (and can defend) the
> code change with all its motivations and implications as well as if you
> had written it yourself, then you don't need to attribute whatever fancy
> text editor or IDE (e.g. Claude) that you used to help produce the
> patch.
The proposed policy for such things is here, under review right now:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251105231514.3167738-1-dave.hansen@linux.intel.com/
jon
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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
Paulo Alcantara <pc@manguebit.org>,
Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Tyler Hicks <code@tyhicks.com>,
devel@lists.orangefs.org, Shyam Prasad N <sprasad@microsoft.com>,
Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
linux-um@lists.infradead.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Ronnie Sahlberg <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
codalist@coda.cs.cmu.edu, Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>,
Yangtao Li <frank.li@vivo.com>,
ocfs2-devel@lists.linux.dev, Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, gfs2@lists.linux.dev,
Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
Martin Brandenburg <martin@omnibond.com>,
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>, Yuezhang Mo <yuezhang.mo@sony.com>,
Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
Marc Dionne <marc.dionne@auristor.com>,
linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
"Matthew Wilcox \(Oracle\)" <willy@infradead.org>,
coda@cs.cmu.edu, Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>,
samba-technical@lists.samba.org, Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>,
ntfs3@lists.linux.dev, Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org>,
jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
Christian Schoenebeck <linux_oss@crudebyte.com>,
Bob Copeland <me@bobcopeland.com>,
Konstantin Komarov <almaz.alexandrovich@paragon-software.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Mark Fasheh <mark@fasheh.com>,
ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
Bharath SM <bharathsm@microsoft.com>,
"Tigran A. Aivazian" <aivazian.tigran@gmail.com>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>, Xiubo Li <xiubli@redhat.com>,
Ryusuke Konishi <konishi.ryusuke@gmail.com>,
v9fs@lists.linux.dev, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Sungjong Seo <sj1557.seo@samsung.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
linux-karma-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>
Subject: [f2fs-dev] LLM disclosure (was: [PATCH v2] vfs: remove the excl argument from the ->create() inode_operation)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2025 15:35:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikfl1nfe.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <176255458305.634289.5577159882824096330@noble.neil.brown.name>
NeilBrown <neilb@ownmail.net> writes:
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2025, Jeff Layton wrote:
>> Full disclosure: I did use Claude code to generate the first
>> approximation of this patch, but I had to fix a number of things that it
>> missed. I probably could have given it better prompts. In any case, I'm
>> not sure how to properly attribute this (or if I even need to).
>
> My understanding is that if you fully understand (and can defend) the
> code change with all its motivations and implications as well as if you
> had written it yourself, then you don't need to attribute whatever fancy
> text editor or IDE (e.g. Claude) that you used to help produce the
> patch.
The proposed policy for such things is here, under review right now:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251105231514.3167738-1-dave.hansen@linux.intel.com/
jon
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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@kernel.org>,
Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
Christian Schoenebeck <linux_oss@crudebyte.com>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Marc Dionne <marc.dionne@auristor.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"Tigran A. Aivazian" <aivazian.tigran@gmail.com>,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Xiubo Li <xiubli@redhat.com>,
Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
coda@cs.cmu.edu, Tyler Hicks <code@tyhicks.com>,
Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>,
Sungjong Seo <sj1557.seo@samsung.com>,
Yuezhang Mo <yuezhang.mo@sony.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>, Chao Yu <chao@kernel.org>,
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
Yangtao Li <frank.li@vivo.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
Ryusuke Konishi <konishi.ryusuke@gmail.com>,
Konstantin Komarov <almaz.alexandrovich@paragon-software.com>,
Mark Fasheh <mark@fasheh.com>, Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>,
Bob Copeland <me@bobcopeland.com>,
Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
Martin Brandenburg <martin@omnibond.com>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
Paulo Alcantara <pc@manguebit.org>,
Ronnie Sahlberg <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>,
Shyam Prasad N <sprasad@microsoft.com>,
Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>, Bharath SM <bharathsm@microsoft.com>,
Zhihao Cheng <chengzhihao1@huawei.com>,
Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org>,
Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, v9fs@lists.linux.dev,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
codalist@coda.cs.cmu.edu, ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, gfs2@lists.linux.dev,
linux-um@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: LLM disclosure (was: [PATCH v2] vfs: remove the excl argument from the ->create() inode_operation)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2025 15:35:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikfl1nfe.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <176255458305.634289.5577159882824096330@noble.neil.brown.name>
NeilBrown <neilb@ownmail.net> writes:
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2025, Jeff Layton wrote:
>> Full disclosure: I did use Claude code to generate the first
>> approximation of this patch, but I had to fix a number of things that it
>> missed. I probably could have given it better prompts. In any case, I'm
>> not sure how to properly attribute this (or if I even need to).
>
> My understanding is that if you fully understand (and can defend) the
> code change with all its motivations and implications as well as if you
> had written it yourself, then you don't need to attribute whatever fancy
> text editor or IDE (e.g. Claude) that you used to help produce the
> patch.
The proposed policy for such things is here, under review right now:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251105231514.3167738-1-dave.hansen@linux.intel.com/
jon
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-07 15:05 [PATCH v2] vfs: remove the excl argument from the ->create() inode_operation Jeff Layton
2025-11-07 15:05 ` Jeff Layton
2025-11-07 15:05 ` [f2fs-dev] " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-11-07 22:29 ` NeilBrown
2025-11-07 22:29 ` NeilBrown
2025-11-07 22:29 ` [f2fs-dev] " NeilBrown
2025-11-07 22:35 ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2025-11-07 22:35 ` LLM disclosure (was: [PATCH v2] vfs: remove the excl argument from the ->create() inode_operation) Jonathan Corbet
2025-11-07 22:35 ` [f2fs-dev] " Jonathan Corbet
2025-11-07 23:19 ` Jeff Layton
2025-11-07 23:19 ` Jeff Layton
2025-11-07 23:19 ` [f2fs-dev] " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-11-07 23:37 ` NeilBrown
2025-11-07 23:37 ` NeilBrown
2025-11-07 23:37 ` [f2fs-dev] " NeilBrown
2025-11-08 6:12 ` [PATCH v2] vfs: remove the excl argument from the ->create() inode_operation Dominique Martinet
2025-11-08 6:12 ` Dominique Martinet
2025-11-08 6:12 ` [f2fs-dev] " Dominique Martinet
2025-11-08 9:19 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-11-08 9:19 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-11-09 11:25 ` kernel test robot
2025-11-09 11:48 ` Jeff Layton
2025-11-09 13:15 ` kernel test robot
2025-11-10 4:35 ` kernel test robot
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