From: nstange at suse.de (Nicolai Stange)
Subject: [PATCH 3/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 11:24:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87imuv977c.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190429180733.3f25d8b9@gandalf.local.home> (Steven Rostedt's message of "Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:07:33 -0400")
Steven Rostedt <rostedt at goodmis.org> writes:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:38:35 -0700
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds at linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 1:30 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt at goodmis.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > The update from "call custom_trampoline" to "call iterator_trampoline"
>> > is where we have an issue.
>>
>> So it has never worked. Just tell people that they have two chocies:
>
> The custom call to iterator translation never worked. One option is to
> always call the iterator, and just take the hit. There's another
> solution to to make permanent updates that would handle the live
> patching case, but not for the tracing case. It is more critical for
> live patching than tracing (missed traced function is not as critical
> as running buggy code unexpectedly). I could look to work on that
> instead.
Making the live patching case permanent would disable tracing of live
patched functions though?
For unconditionally calling the iterator: I don't have numbers, but
would expect that always searching through something like 50-70 live
patching ftrace_ops from some hot path will be noticeable.
> If Nicolai has time, perhaps he can try out the method you suggest and
> see if we can move this forward.
You mean making ftrace handle call->call transitions one by one in
non-batch mode, right? Sure, I can do that.
Another question though: is there anything that prevents us from calling
ftrace_ops_list_func() directly from ftrace_int3_handler()? We don't
have parent_ip, but if that is used for reporting only, maybe setting it
to some ftrace_is_in_int3_and_doesnt_now_the_parent() will work?
Graph tracing entries would still be lost, but well...
Thanks,
Nicolai
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From: nstange@suse.de (Nicolai Stange)
Subject: [PATCH 3/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 11:24:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87imuv977c.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190430092423.qYVYYfsQ-1VhQSVc_7cyCgdHWCyWPM-qw0yN38EZiLw@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190429180733.3f25d8b9@gandalf.local.home> (Steven Rostedt's message of "Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:07:33 -0400")
Steven Rostedt <rostedt at goodmis.org> writes:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:38:35 -0700
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019@1:30 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > The update from "call custom_trampoline" to "call iterator_trampoline"
>> > is where we have an issue.
>>
>> So it has never worked. Just tell people that they have two chocies:
>
> The custom call to iterator translation never worked. One option is to
> always call the iterator, and just take the hit. There's another
> solution to to make permanent updates that would handle the live
> patching case, but not for the tracing case. It is more critical for
> live patching than tracing (missed traced function is not as critical
> as running buggy code unexpectedly). I could look to work on that
> instead.
Making the live patching case permanent would disable tracing of live
patched functions though?
For unconditionally calling the iterator: I don't have numbers, but
would expect that always searching through something like 50-70 live
patching ftrace_ops from some hot path will be noticeable.
> If Nicolai has time, perhaps he can try out the method you suggest and
> see if we can move this forward.
You mean making ftrace handle call->call transitions one by one in
non-batch mode, right? Sure, I can do that.
Another question though: is there anything that prevents us from calling
ftrace_ops_list_func() directly from ftrace_int3_handler()? We don't
have parent_ip, but if that is used for reporting only, maybe setting it
to some ftrace_is_in_int3_and_doesnt_now_the_parent() will work?
Graph tracing entries would still be lost, but well...
Thanks,
Nicolai
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From: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"the arch\/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
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Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
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Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
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Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
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Nayna Jain <nayna@linux.ibm.com>,
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Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 11:24:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87imuv977c.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190429180733.3f25d8b9@gandalf.local.home> (Steven Rostedt's message of "Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:07:33 -0400")
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> writes:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:38:35 -0700
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 1:30 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > The update from "call custom_trampoline" to "call iterator_trampoline"
>> > is where we have an issue.
>>
>> So it has never worked. Just tell people that they have two chocies:
>
> The custom call to iterator translation never worked. One option is to
> always call the iterator, and just take the hit. There's another
> solution to to make permanent updates that would handle the live
> patching case, but not for the tracing case. It is more critical for
> live patching than tracing (missed traced function is not as critical
> as running buggy code unexpectedly). I could look to work on that
> instead.
Making the live patching case permanent would disable tracing of live
patched functions though?
For unconditionally calling the iterator: I don't have numbers, but
would expect that always searching through something like 50-70 live
patching ftrace_ops from some hot path will be noticeable.
> If Nicolai has time, perhaps he can try out the method you suggest and
> see if we can move this forward.
You mean making ftrace handle call->call transitions one by one in
non-batch mode, right? Sure, I can do that.
Another question though: is there anything that prevents us from calling
ftrace_ops_list_func() directly from ftrace_int3_handler()? We don't
have parent_ip, but if that is used for reporting only, maybe setting it
to some ftrace_is_in_int3_and_doesnt_now_the_parent() will work?
Graph tracing entries would still be lost, but well...
Thanks,
Nicolai
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2019-04-27 10:06 [PATCH 0/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation nstange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/thread_info: introduce ->ftrace_int3_stack member nstange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-28 17:41 ` luto
2019-04-28 17:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 17:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 17:51 ` rostedt
2019-04-28 17:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 17:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 18:08 ` luto
2019-04-28 18:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 18:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 19:43 ` rostedt
2019-04-28 19:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 19:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 20:56 ` luto
2019-04-28 20:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 20:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 21:22 ` nstange
2019-04-28 21:22 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-28 21:22 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-28 23:27 ` luto
2019-04-28 23:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 23:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-27 10:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] ftrace: drop 'static' qualifier from ftrace_ops_list_func() nstange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation nstange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:26 ` peterz
2019-04-27 10:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-27 10:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-28 17:38 ` rostedt
2019-04-28 17:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 17:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 18:06 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 18:22 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 18:42 ` luto
2019-04-29 18:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 18:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CAHk-=whtt4K2f0KPtG-4Pykh3FK8UBOjD8jhXCUKB5nWDj_YRA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-29 18:56 ` luto
2019-04-29 18:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 18:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CAHk-=wgewK4eFhF3=0RNtk1KQjMANFH6oDE=8m=84RExn2gxhw@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAHk-=whay7eN6+2gZjY-ybRbkbcqAmgrLwwszzHx8ws3c=S-MA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-29 19:24 ` luto
2019-04-29 19:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 19:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 20:07 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 13:56 ` peterz
2019-04-30 13:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 13:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 16:06 ` torvalds
2019-04-30 16:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 16:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 16:33 ` luto
2019-04-30 16:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-30 16:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-30 17:03 ` rostedt
2019-04-30 17:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:20 ` rostedt
2019-04-30 17:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH] ftrace/x86: Emulate call function while updating in breakpoint handler rostedt
2019-04-30 17:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 18:33 ` torvalds
2019-04-30 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 19:00 ` rostedt
2019-04-30 19:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 19:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 21:08 ` rostedt
2019-04-30 21:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 21:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 13:11 ` peterz
2019-05-01 13:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 13:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 18:58 ` rostedt
2019-05-01 18:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 18:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 19:03 ` peterz
2019-05-01 19:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:03 ` torvalds
2019-05-01 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-01 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-01 19:13 ` peterz
2019-05-01 19:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:13 ` rostedt
2019-05-01 19:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 19:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 19:33 ` jikos
2019-05-01 19:33 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-05-01 19:33 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-05-01 19:41 ` peterz
2019-05-01 19:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 21:53 ` [RFC][PATCH v2] " rostedt
2019-04-30 21:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 21:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 1:35 ` rostedt
2019-05-01 1:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 1:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 1:58 ` torvalds
2019-05-01 1:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-01 1:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-01 8:26 ` nstange
2019-05-01 8:26 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-05-01 8:26 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-05-01 13:22 ` rostedt
2019-05-01 13:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 13:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 20:16 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation torvalds
2019-04-29 20:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 22:08 ` sean.j.christopherson
2019-04-29 22:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-29 22:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-29 22:22 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 0:08 ` sean.j.christopherson
2019-04-30 0:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-30 0:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-30 0:45 ` sean.j.christopherson
2019-04-30 0:45 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-30 0:45 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-30 2:26 ` torvalds
2019-04-30 2:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 2:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 10:40 ` peterz
2019-04-30 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 11:17 ` jikos
2019-04-30 11:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-04-30 11:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-04-29 22:06 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 11:18 ` peterz
2019-04-30 11:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 11:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-29 18:52 ` rostedt
2019-04-29 18:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 18:52 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <CAHk-=wjm93jLtVxTX4HZs6K4k1Wqh3ujjmapqaYtcibVk_YnzQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-29 19:07 ` rostedt
2019-04-29 19:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 19:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 20:06 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:20 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:30 ` rostedt
2019-04-29 20:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 20:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 21:38 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 22:07 ` rostedt
2019-04-29 22:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 22:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 9:24 ` nstange [this message]
2019-04-30 9:24 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-30 9:24 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-30 10:46 ` peterz
2019-04-30 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 13:44 ` rostedt
2019-04-30 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 14:20 ` peterz
2019-04-30 14:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 14:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 14:36 ` rostedt
2019-04-30 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-27 10:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests/livepatch: add "ftrace a live patched function" test nstange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
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